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    The US is again attempting to draw Vietnam into superpower politics.

    I think it’s the aggressive superpower neighbor of theirs releasing official maps that claim Vietnamese waters as their own doing that you shameless China apologist.

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      China essentially claims all of Asia that isn’t India or Russia, including Japan. And if Putin falls I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to sneak some bits off Russia.

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        China claims Vietnam? Laos? Singapore? Myanmar? Mongolia? Pakistan??

        You’re kind of right if by China, you mean the Republic of China, they have some pretty wild territorial claims pretty wild territorial claims

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    I mean, I largely agree with the facts of the article, but I don’t see what part is a “mistake.” If you’ve decided to play the superpower game, drawing countries into your orbit seems like the correct strategy, as does prioritizing ones that have ties to other powerful countries that you would like to undercut.

    If they think that “attempting to remain a superpower” is a mistake in and of itself, then it’s not a repeat, it’s just one continuous mistake that started last century.

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    In March 2015, retired US diplomat and Harvard professor Robert Blackwill wrote a policy paper that has become an unofficial playbook for today’s American actions in Asia.

    It starts with a remarkable but unsurprising premise: “The United States has consistently pursued a grand strategy focused on acquiring and maintaining pre-eminent power over various rivals, first on the North American continent, then in the Western hemisphere, and finally globally.”

    The Blackwell paper argues that the US must “protect its systemic primacy” and spells out how to do it in Asia.

    we are so the bad guys

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      retired US diplomat and Harvard professor Robert Blackwill wrote a policy paper that has become an unofficial playbook for today’s American actions in Asia.

      OR this is Chinese propaganda falsely making a big deal about a policy paper from a former Bush official whose been out of government service for two decades and no one actually listens to.

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        Chinese propaganda by… Al Jazeera? And besides, do you think that the US isn’t trying to flex any power in Asia? I’d also read beyond the intro of his Wikipedia page if you think he’s been out of government service for two decades, he’s a board member on at least a couple of think tanks now.

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          Chinese propaganda by… Al Jazeera?

          It’s an opinion article from Jim Laurie, so yes. Fox News publishes opinion articles from Bernie Sanders, that doesn’t mean Fox News agrees with him.

          And besides, do you think that the US isn’t trying to flex any power in Asia?

          Holy galloping goalposts, Batman!

          he’s a board member on at least a couple of think tanks now.

          Oh shit, he’s a member of some of America’s thousand foreign policy think tanks? My bad; clearly he dictates US Asia policy then.

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            The goalposts are exactly where they started. You’re defending America wanting world domination (“systemic primacy”), I’m saying that’s a pretty evil thing to want, especially for a nation who’s policy has been might makes right for at least 7 decades now.

            P.S., you should probably read up a bit on the RAND corporation and CFR if you think they are “some of America’s thousand foreign policy think tanks”, and you may also want to reevaluate calling executive committee membership and senior fellowship as being “a member”.

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        what are you on about, why is this your response when the country with the worlds largest military says they need to be the primary power over an entire continent that isn’t them

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            You just saw my instance and flipped out, I didn’t even make any moral judgments about any political systems, I just said it’s kind of evil to want to “protect our systemic primacy”. “systemic primacy” is literally just policy wonk speak for “world domination”. Why are you so quick to attack me for that? Why are you getting defensive for the trillion-dollar military country?

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                I’m happy that you’ve found peace and confidence in your superiority by reducing the world you live in to something simple. Unfortunately that sort of takes away any value I might find in having a discussion with you, so have a nice life, comrade.

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          They think it’s a zero sum game, with communism on one side and neo-liberalism on the other.

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              There’s other ideologies. Vying for power is a different question.

              i.e. China being bad guys doesn’t mean the U.S. isn’t also a bad guy.

              They’re both horrible and have lots of elements of totalitarianism. And the U.S. in particular bears the weight of the responsibility when it comes to our current climate crisis.

              We need something like anarchi-syndacalism if we want to survive. Emergent rather than power based systems.

              In other words, as someone who doesn’t identify with the will to power or property, China and the U.S. are both insane, Imperialist nations. And being against one doesn’t make me for the other. They both suck.