• poor leftists talk about poverty, labor aristocrats get uncomfortable and insist that sociological classes aren’t materialist. “all that matters is that we’re working class - we’re all in this together”

  • black leftists talk about racism, whites get uncomfortable and insist that they’re not personally part of the problem. “we mustn’t allow the bourgeois to divide the proletariat along racial lines - we’re all in this together”

  • female leftists talk about patriarchy, men get uncomfortable and insist that it hurts them too. “this men vs women stuff is reductive anyway - we’re all in this together”

  • third world leftists talk about imperialism, americoids get uncomfortable and insist that red white and blue lives matter too. “what happened to the international working class - we’re all in this together”

you don’t have to invite yourself to every form and experience of oppression. anyone with a baby’s consciousness of intersectionality ought to be capable of admitting when they have privilege

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    I can’t believe we’re having this struggle session now involving 3 year old accounts?

    How did they keep quiet this long and what made them lose this ability?

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      i know, im kinda wilding

      earnestly waiting, i need to know what brainworms i have that will end with me being banned now

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        earnestly waiting, i need to know what brainworms i have that will end with me being banned now

        If I had to guess (not for you specifically, but hexbear in general), it would be tone indicators. The last big struggle session that I can think of was whether we should use tone indicators to accomodate neurodivergent people. It actually makes sense to use them in an online forum like this, even for neurotypical people because nuance is lost when one is just reading text straight up. However, I saw a lot of pushback on this sort of thing from users that would normally be all about the “hexbear party line” (so to speak) of things like vegan solidarity, trans solidarity and respecting pronouns, etc. And it’s the same line of argumentation that people who were against meat content warnings were using (“what’s the big deal?” etc.). So yeah perhaps that’s the next frontier.

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          i already have to badger people to do spoiler tags and nsfw tags properly for trauma related content, that is gonna take ages to catch on

          i do usually use emojis as a tone indicator a lot of times though 🤔 thats probably not very reliable for a lot of neurodivergent people but maybe some emojis could be made to ease adoption, would have to inform people on hover texts

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            i already have to badger people to do spoiler tags and nsfw tags properly for trauma related content, that is gonna take ages to catch on

            You’ve (correctly) told me to add spoiler tags and NSFW tags on my own posts, and while inconvenient at first, I would not want it any other way because that’s better for other people.

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          I think it boiled down to some people being mildly inconvenienced and being asked to modify their behavior for the sake of other people.

          Fair-weather comrades until that moment.

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                To summarize, it was at the ideological front of the idea of the public mental hospital system being a bad thing (and yes in many ways it was) but that lead to the Reagan-era abolishment of pretty much the entire thing which drove so many people out of that system that many of them became permanently homeless and untreated of numerous mental illnesses… lingering on the streets for decades, some to the present day if they haven’t died already.

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                  I had always taken the lyrics to be about a loss of innocence that comes with working in the California entertainment industry. It’s all glamorous from the outside but within the residents have become deranged and exploitative.

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                    “You can check out any time you like but you can never leave… until you can, then you can never check back in. Tough shit. Have fun being homeless.” freedom-and-democracy

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                  Wtf I didn’t interpret it that way at all lmao, I thought it was a funny joke about California having nice weather or something which made you not want to leave

                  I’m too innocent

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                    I still love the song but the lyrics were directly about being “tricked” into a public mental health institution, the kind that ceased to exist for the most part after Reagan’s “reforms.”

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      Is this the same struggle season regarding the kkkrakkkers in the thread about not being able to be racist against whites, or is this a different - if thematically similar- struggle session?

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        In the end, there is only one long struggle session, the neck back to which all the heads of the struggle session hydra can be traced: outdoor cats, cracker racism, veganism, you name it, they all trace back to the very same root, the struggle against posting.

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        ive been on my “stop pretending that the proletariat is homogeneous” grind for years, I just thought that with the kkkrakkker struggle session it would be a good time to shoot another shot on my new account

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      A lot of these people have been saying the same things for years, if they weren’t being transphobic or making jokes about pumpkin spice lattes the mods just let them be and so did the user base