That entire instance is infested with a massive amount of right-wing hate, transphobia, homophobia, and ugly political vitriol under the guise of “allowing free speech”, rising to the same level or worse than lemmygrad (which we have already defederated from for obvious reasons). Please get this garbage off of the “all” page given that the entire instance actively breaks the rules of lemmy.one and is only providing them with a larger platform. I think a few trolls may have already spilled over.

just take a 20 second scroll through this mess or any of the other communities there: https://lemmy.one/c/dankmemes@exploding-heads.com

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    Imagine if people just blocked communities or people they didn’t like; seems like the logical solution. I personally enjoy content here and I’m sure both our users check out various communities in both instances. If you guys say opened an anti christianity community or a pro communism community (which would be communities many liberals might like) i would personally block it because i don’t want to see those Things. Our policy is we allow offensive material and if people don’t like it, it is on the user to block the person or community that they don’t want to see. We don’t ban accounts, unless it breaks United States law or violates the patriot act. If anyone needs help blocking a community or a person, please send me a direct message and I will assist you.

    Sincerely; Sir Wiggle Hard

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      The big advantage of federation is that shit instances can be removed. It’s one of the big selling points. If an instance wants to allow hateful trash they do so at the risk of being cut off.

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        Fair point, however blocking people or communities is far easier and also you wont lose people who want to see our both instances content. I Understand the struggle of wanting to appease people but understand that our position on speech is what it is. Until next time have a great weekend.

        Edit: blocking dank memes, dank microwave taco would eliminate most controversial material posted on our instance

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          If they want to see both instances they can create an account on both instances and follow the instances rules.

          You can mod however you choose. Other people don’t have to give a shit or listen to it.

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          The “free speech even if you don’t like it” shtick is very romantic and reasonable sounding, but it ignores how extremism spreads and escalates.

          The far-right have spent a lot of time and money figuring out how to best spread their shitty ideology and have learned what every other cult has – the softest targets are the disillusioned, the deeply mentally ill, the idiots and the kids.

          They share stories about how they became radicalised and they all read much the same – they read the memes, dipped a toe into the “alt-light” and then let upvotes and algorithms funnel them into mask off Nazism, cheering on domestic terrorists.

          I dont know (nor care) if you’re platforming them because you’re ignorant of how it works or because you know exactly how it works but I won’t be a part of any instance that tolerates scumbags like that.

          Your argument may as well be “maybe the children should decide if they want to be groomed and molested, instead of parents and police deciding for them”.

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      Honestly; running your community that way violates the Lemmy Code of Conduct, which a large number of instances choose to adhere to, as well as the more general template version; the Citizen Code of Conduct.

      Therefore you can expect many, many instances to quickly defederate you if you do not take steps to ensure your communities do not spill over or propagate hateful content. I think this instance is not quite as itchy on the defederation button; but even I would support your instance being defederated simply because you evidently choose not to moderate “anything offensive at all”.

      It’s only a matter of time before the trolls and edgelords you hope to attract to your community will test the limits and post truly illegal things.

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        Code of conduct: imo rules carefully written so that some guy could have feel good points in his illustrious career of sjw field work

        Also….

        simply because you evidently choose not to moderate “anything offensive at all”.

        It’s only a matter of time before the trolls and edgelords you hope to attract to your community will test the limits and post truly illegal things.

        Not true, we dont allow spam posting of hate (example given guy posts nszi flag five times, guy posts whitey is devil five times) pedophile crap, calls for violence and any breaking usa law or violations of the patriot act

        In a wirld where what is acceptable speech changes at the speed of light, don’t be shocked when your account Gets banned cz bar of what makes ppl butt hurt gets raised.

        Also…

        As i said before, we have several communities, only two perhaps three hold offensive material, easy to block however rage addicts and political ideologues on alt accounts go around giving sjw speeches on what to defederate from, it’s pathetic and quite frankly all of you would benefit from thicker skin, life is going to kick the living shit out of you

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          Your response only shows how unconcerned of an admin you are. If you wanted to prove your opponents are reactionaries; you definitely shouldn’t be accusing them of being trolls on alts or calling them out as pathetic or as ideologues. Your response only lends strength to those calling for your instances’ defederation.

          These are just extreme examples but… 5 different nazi memes, each with their own uniquely embedded/hidden swastikas is still spamming hate. 5 different unique nazi dogwhistles is still spammed hate. 5 different calls for laws to be passed that don’t in and of themselves call for legalized murder of trans people; but result in the murders of trans people to go unpunished; is in of itself, spammed hate.

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            Your response only shows how unconcerned of an admin you are. If you wanted to prove your opponents are reactionaries; you definitely shouldn’t be accusing them of being trolls on alts or calling them out as pathetic or as ideologues. Your response only lends strength to those calling for your instances’ defederation.

            This will be my last response

            I know i rub people the wrong way, but I can’t help but speak my mind the way i see things. I think the type of censorship you and other people strive for leads to more tribalism and hate than if some idiot we’re posting stupid memes about (insert controversial topic), IMO people should be talking more to find out how to compromise on issues, for example rather than demonizing lawful gun owners why not have a civil discussion on how to better protect kids in schools outside of s liberal pipe dream of getting rid of the second amendment, or coming to a common sense solution on pollution or trying to figure out and discussing with people on the right why they oppose critical race theory or why they believe joe biden is corrupt or what i think many of you are outraged about, why someone would post anti trans memes in the first place outside of you just saying transphobia. Hard subjects deserve tough conversations, no? Until next time take care, wish you and everyone a great weekend.

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              Homophobia, transphobia and racism do in fact cause real harm. There’s no need for it.

              I don’t care if some uneducated idiot is stuck 30/40 years in the past mentally.

              I gain absolutely nothing by hearing it and don’t care what they think.