• SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      But I want to give away my work for free for the betterment of humanity, as long as I get a reasonable standard of living in return.

      Does it make me a freeloader if I specifically want to remove my own possibility for becoming rich? As long as it’s ensured nobody will needlessly suffer?

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      Socialist = Freeloader🙃

      I don’t suspect you’re someone who will debate in good faith, but I’ll bite anyway.

      It’s actually the opposite, Capitalists are freeloaders because they only need to own, and because they own, they can extract from the value of the labor of other people.

      If the means of production are shared among the laborers, then the laborers get to proportionally share the fruits of their own labor, without a freeloader owner skimming off without helping.

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        So here’s the thing, we live in a capitalist society, and that’s the reality I’m living in. We can sit here all day and debate it, but that will not change the facts, and until the rules change I will conduct myself as such.🤷🏾‍♂️

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          You haven’t contradicted anything I’ve said.

          I agree, I also live in reality, in a capitalist society, with labor-exploiting ownership overlord freeloader elites, and I will happily call them out for it.

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            To put it another way…

            There’s nohing to the debate. The opposing views would be the fantasy world that you want and the reality that I’m OK with living in.

            and I will happily call them out for it

            And that’s all what online leftism is about, being really loud online, and non-existent in real life.

            That’s another reason not to even waste time debating as the only place I hear all the Marxist bullshit is online. Makes me wonder if all the chatter is coming from professional troll farms in nefarious countries.

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                Mad lol, silly rabbit, I’m not a snowflake that gets affected by online conversations. Besides, what do I have to be mad about? I think society is just fine, you’re the one hoping for drastic change.🤷🏾‍♂️😉👍🏾

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            Yeah thats what I figured. Loser with an awesome paycheck.

            FIFY, I don’t care what you call/think about me. The only thing that matters is the cash flow, fuck everything and everyone else.🤑🤑🤑

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              Ah, nihilocapitalism. Figures. I spent some years in that hole.

              I’ve since learned that socialism, and by extension caring for others, actually leads to more personal gratification in the long term. But we always knew the high road was the best road.

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                Saying you care VS actually helping people are two different things bruh. Caring doesn’t get homeless people off the street, caring doesn’t feed the hungry, caring doesn’t help people with their bills

                So why don’t you stop astroturfing like you care online and get out there and actually help people.

                PS: and if you do actually help people, then my message is intended at you.

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              Dogshit person working for a dogshit ISP/cable company.

              Who could have guessed?

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                Dogshit person, making a good living working for a dogshit ISP/cable company that pays their employees well, and has a company wide starting rate of 25/hr. Who could have guessed?

                FIFY, as long as the checks clear, I could careless if you like the company or not. 😘

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                  As a capitalist myself, you’re my favorite kind of person. I love the ones that don’t question anything, do as they’re told and take whatever they get. Thank you for being you! ❤️

                  Now, hope you aren’t posting on the clock! If so get back to work you little scamp (imagine I’m affectionately ruffling your hair right now).

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                  Just so we’re clear, if you’re making 25 an hour you’re poor next to me. If you’re making 40 an hour, you’re still poor next to me.

                  And I don’t have to work for a dirt ISP. Keep coping you degenerate.