Not one major news outlet is covering the destruction of Starlink this summer. Though Lemmy might enjoy Elon losing more money.
Not one major news outlet is covering the destruction of Starlink this summer. Though Lemmy might enjoy Elon losing more money.
Okay, being harsh and insulting just isn’t necessary. Yes, OP got something wrong — they posted something that they thought was significant but actually isn’t — but why not correct them like a reasonable person? In general, we should be trying to encourage discussion and foster a positive community, and that means treating other people like human beings when they don’t know much about space stuff.
But noooooo, we need dopamine from cussing out people who’ve been on Kbin for a day because they dared post about satellites being lost without knowing that it doesn’t mean that much. You might as well have told them to fuck off and never come back. And of course, this is the comment that gets all the upvotes.
How are people supposed to feel comfortable posting when any error they make is going to be met with insults and blocks? You’re talking to another person, ffs, and personally attacking them over something as small as this. Communities aren’t enjoyable when people are supporting this stuff.
Making an error is one thing. Gloating about something that’s been accounted for and is completely expected as if it’s some major gotcha without an ounce of understanding is, in my opinion, 100% worthy of derision.
But here’s the thing: OP didn’t know that it was accounted for and expected. And if it wasn’t expected (or we, like OP, weren’t aware), many of us would probably also mock Elon sort something of the sort. It’s not malice. It’s simply not knowing something.
Why couldn’t this commenter have maturely and informatively told OP why they were wrong? That would’ve made OP aware of their mistake and cautious of making similar errors in the future without discouraging them from contributing entirely. It’s clearly not difficult to do, as other comments did it.
The only reason for someone to personally insult someone over this is because it makes them feel better, they find it funny, etc. It doesn’t help OP or the community. It’s just for someone to get a quick laugh from bringing down other people for not knowing something, and that’s not something people should support or condone on the fediverse.
You’re giving OP too much credit and assuming I don’t know what I’m talking about. That’s cool, you do you, but know that this isn’t the first time OP has posted this, and it’s not the first time someone has told them this. Also OP is sus in general.
While I agree with most of what you said, I disagree on this point. Could he have worded it better? Been nicer? Tried understanding OP’s extremely warped perception of reality? Sure, but at the same time, OP set the tone by making an extremely smug, ignorant post. An old adage comes to mind: “arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a chicken - it’s just going to knock all the pieces over, shit all over the board, and strut around like it won.” In cases like that, a stern “fuck off” is not only warranted, but in the best interests of building a healthy community. I want to debate things with people, not play chess against a chicken.
Neither smugness nor ignorance warrants this kind of response.
Starting with the latter, someone not knowing something, especially something benign like “Oh, expensive satellites being lost is expected,” is in no world a reason for insulting them or telling them to leave. It’s not like OP is maliciously trying to spread misinformation. They shared news that they thought was a bad look for Elon Musk but actually wasn’t. The appropriate response is a simple correction, not a stern “fuck off”, and definitely not a barrage of personal insults.
As for smugness, let’s assume that this post was about something that actually showed Elon Musk screwing up. In that case, it being smug would be fine—nay, expected—here. Smug comments against Elon Musk for doing dumb stuff happen all the time, and nobody’s telling the people making those comments to get bent. Here, OP really thought that this was another Elon fail, in which case nobody would be complaining about the tone of the post. So it’s just a matter of OP being wrong and thus the tone not really being appropriate (since Elon isn’t messing up here), not a bad attitude that needs to be shooed away from the community.
Also, “extremely warped perception of reality”? Come on. It’s just not knowing what losses are expected with satellites.