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one featured a picture of President Biden pointing his finger, with an “I did that!” caption. the hosts of The Kilowatts tweeted a video showing it was possible to take control of an Electrify America station’s operating system. cracks could conceivably permit hackers to access vehicle data or consumers’ credit card information
You mean like all the cars skimmers already found at pay at the pump systems or ATMs? Shocking.
Recalls that at least one brand of EV charger has no screens or keypads and works completely off vehicle hand shake or app unlock, has high uptime from constant monitoring… Can’t remember the name… hmm
Expecting all network operators to do that is not feasible or reliable. Tesla controls the car, protocol, charger, and payment processing. Everyone else outside the walled garden is openly handling a much bigger market with many more variables in more countries. Forcing customers to use an app for each brand of charger is also an accessibility nightmare. Fear mongering about skimmers is a dumb reason to remove traditional payment methods.
This is all before we get to the lack of screen or keypad means fuck all to security (it’s also an accessibility issue to remove them). If I can break into a Tesla charger wirelessly and fuck with your car, I’m going to do it, walled garden or not. Just look at the state of IoT.
EDIT: This comment aged well https://thedriven.io/2023/07/18/tesla-supercharger-spotted-with-credit-card-reader/
They support CCS as the protocol
Tesla has more cars than just about all the rest of the market… Name a charing provider that operates in a country tesla does not?
Funny enough a large number of these charging providers require that ON TOP of having poor monitoring and security for the charging terminals.
Didn’t really suggest removing them, I pointed out it is already an issue at nearly all gas stations. Not a new problem.
Already started to happen with ICE cars back in 2015 are already vulnerable to wireless exploit, no charging network or gas station needed. At least with a Tesla you get quick wireless security updates, no waiting for a recall notice and trip back to the dealer.
CCS is is only supported through a PLC translation chip on the vehicle side or a rare Magic Dock adaptor, and only when one side is non-Tesla. Outside of that, CCS is not a factor and the proprietary 11bit CAN bus protocol is used natively. Hence, Tesla controls every side of the equation on their protocol and payment processing without having to communicate with 3rd parties.
ABB chargers in India
This isn’t new or innovative. OTA updates for cars have been around years before EVs. But usually those don’t stop the car from starting then still be towed to said dealer because the update wasn’t properly tested or have fallbacks in case of failure.
Point is, shit is going to happen across the board for everyone and Tesla is NOT some golden child. It’ll just be another Apple case where dumb security claims get touted until hackers bring them down a peg or two.
In the US, in Europe they have the CSS2 plug, and owners of other cars can use the Tesla App to charge at super chargers. (if we are talking globally not just NA)
The do have superchargers there, but they aren’t active due to the hang up of selling cars there. Would argue that Tesla operates a reliable charging network in more countries than any other charging network does currently.
Yep, it just sounded like you were suggesting this was an EV thing or a Tesla thing… It isn’t everyone needs to do better at security.
Going back to the main topic. It seems odd that so many “dedicated” charging providers SUCK at being charging providers.