Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy appeared somber and, at times, angry in a blistering address to the U.N. General Assembly on Tuesday, as he sought to shore up support for his country’s war effort and demand that Russia be punished for the invasion.

Wearing his trademark green fatigues at the dais at the front of the hall, Zelenskyy furrowed his brow as he called for other countries to recognize that Russia was not just a threat to Ukraine — but to the entire world. He appealed for other countries to help hold the line against Moscow, as “mass destruction is gaining momentum.”

“While Russia is pushing the world to the final war, Ukraine is doing everything to ensure that after Russian aggression, no one will dare to attack any nation,” Zelenskyy said.

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    There’s a lot of countries with belligerent neighbors who so far have not developed a nuclear program watching what kind of help Ukraine gets and for how long very, very closely

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      Honestly I’d guess they want to keep their top tier weapons a secret from the world. They don’t want China seeing how they work and developing a counter to it.

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        This isn’t about Area 51 flying saucers but ATACMS and the like. Over 30 years old by now you’re not preventing the Chinese from developing similar systems by not shipping it to Ukraine, China already has a very comparable system, barely younger.

        It’s a rocket, that is, not exactly rocket science any more.

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        That’s fine. I’m thinking the U.S. isn’t even supplying 2nd grade level equipment. I believe there’s plenty of more sophisticated weapons that should be given to Ukraine.

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          Yes M1 Abrahms tanks are so shitty lol. Same with those HIMARS and Bradleys. /s

          F16? Yeah ok. Sure. They’re old. I’ll give you that. Still effective though.

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      We don’t even give our top tier systems to places like Canada, the UK, and Australia when they buy American aircraft/surface platforms on contract. There’s no way in hell we’d send them off to Ukraine to potentially be revealed or captured.

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        It’s unfair for Ukraine but Russia getting tangled up in this mess means they have less time and means to mess with the rest of the World. Hopefully, it will even accelerate Putin’s downfall.

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        0 day old account literally spewing Kremlin talking points. In my day, bot farms worked harder

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          The internet, same place you do

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            “Everyone that has a different conclusion than me is misinformed” fucking lol

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            If most people on the planet see a different narrative, it should be trivial for you to show us the way.

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            from both sides and from historic perspectives. It is not that hard. You should try it too

            That’s a bit of a false equivalency… so far the only places that have politically or materially supported Russia have been countries without a free press, or have a severely restricted press.

            I don’t really see how the historic narrative supports your claim either. Russian governments have always seen Crimea as a very important strategic asset to conquer and hold.

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        If US could do that, they would already have done it. However they are so far up their asses that they cannot see that Ukraine has already lost this war.

        Thb, there is no winning this war for anyone. If Russia was able to push into kieve and actually demand a unconditional surrender, they would have done it by now.

        The best Russia can hope for now is a conditional surrender that allows them to keep hold over their most strategically important territories, namely their access to the black sea.

        Meaning the best outcome was just the status quo of 2014. To achieve their conservation of the status quo they have wasted the vast majority of their war materials and trained personal. Even if they win, it cost them their ability to project hard power outside of eastern Europe.

        Despite what you say, even in the worst case scenario Ukraine will have the forces to pursue a peace agreement, giving them time to rearm and resupply.

        will only result in meaningless prolongation of this war and further loss of Ukrainian lives. This is not aid, this is throwing people in a meatgrinder to serve west’s interests

        I think the whole point of the people of Ukraine fighting is that they believe the west interest and Ukraine’s interest are one in the same. I personally believe the west is more interested in destroying Russian hard power, but I’m not going to assert that I know more about Ukrainian interest more than the Ukrainian.

        The most important thing to understand is that you and everyone else in the west are being subjected to hardcore propaganda and that this is not the narrative that most people on the planet see, despite the effort to alter reality.

        Ahh, so you are of the opinion that the rest of the world buys that Russia invaded Ukraine because of Nazism? Despite the fact that their pmc is named Wagner, and was founded by a self confessed neo nazi?

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          Its an obvious troll account. It was hoping someone would expend as much energy as you have on refuting its claims. It doesnt care that its wrong. Its only job is to keep you scrambling for counterpoints.

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            Eh, my rebuttal isn’t for their benefit, it’s for the benefit of those who may find it reasonable claim. Plus, it kills time between my appointments.

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              Fair enough. I hope we one day have some method to figure out these trolls immediately on posting and ban them.

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        If what you said is true, why is Putin so intent on serving western interests? Is Putin a US puppet? What does that say about the Russian people that they just let themselves get drafted into a war and die by a US puppet leader all to benefit the West?

        “Western propaganda” makes the West look incompetent, you make the West look all powerful and controlling.

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    russia lost on day 4. The rest of this is to see how badly and in what ways. And to save as many Ukrainian lives and civic institutions as possible. Zelenskyy is focused on the latter, lives and infrastructure, as he should be. Slava Ukraini!

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy appeared somber and, at times, angry in a blistering address to the U.N. General Assembly on Tuesday, as he sought to shore up support for his country’s war effort and demand that Russia be punished for the invasion.

    Wearing his trademark green fatigues at the dais at the front of the hall, Zelenskyy furrowed his brow as he called for other countries to recognize that Russia was not just a threat to Ukraine — but to the entire world.

    Moscow also used threats against the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant and drove up energy and food insecurity by bombing Ukrainian ports to sow discord locally and internationally, Zelenskyy argued.

    It appeared Ukraine hoped to perhaps cash in on Zelenskyy’s growing global celebrity to further international dialogue with those countries present, and it worked as many diplomats and leaders took photos of the young Ukrainian president, a former television comedian, as he spoke.

    Zelenskyy’s physical presence at the U.N. on Tuesday demonstrated a more direct diplomatic approach with allies, partners and other major world governments, such as India and Brazil, that have largely remained on the sidelines in the conflict.

    The American president’s speech spent noticeably little time focused on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the challenges the eastern European country faces — a departure from last year’s address — though Biden clearly laid the blame for the war at the Kremlin’s feet.


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    Out of all the countries providing aid to Ukraine the US isn’t providing enough aid to rank even top 10 by gdp. The US signed a defensive pact with Ukraine in exchange for them giving up their nukes. The US should really step up with the help, countries with no such treaty are even doing more.

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      The US has absolutely not signed a defensive pact with Ukraine. Its commitment in the Budapest memorandum is limited to respecting Ukraine’s sovereignty and bringing matters to UN Security Council in case that sovereignty is violated, which does nothing as long as the violating party is a permanent member. The whole document was pretty a nice political declaration. Don’t get me wrong, I think the US should provide all help possible to Ukraine, but saying that it has a defensive pact or a treaty obligation to do so is unfair.

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        So lesson learned: don’t give up your nukes unless you’re getting into an actual defensive alliance in exchange (NATO, EU…).

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          Agreed. I can’t see anyone else ever giving up nukes again, except for special situations like South Africa.

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      'Murica isn’t the center of the world, numbnuts. And neither are you.

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      You’re right, nobody cares about you or where you’re from.

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      There are many problems everywhere in the world. War, wherever it is occurring, is bad. You do not have to use up all your time thinking about this specific problem. However, you should care about war, because, just as Russia can invade Ukraine, it can invade other countries and other nations can do it too. We should work as a society to control and ban evil activities.

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        If you cared about war you’d care about ANY country who starts it, but you don’t, otherwise you’d be far more vocal. Your outrage is selective

        Israel has been invading Palestine for what, 70 years now? But I bet you’d make up any excuse you can to justify that

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          I like how you just assume someone’s opinion so you can ham-fistedly shut down their argument. It’s not even a decent strawman. Care to pivot to another conflict when I point out that I think Palestine should be its own country and Israel is 100% in the wrong when it comes to illegal settlements?

          It’s crazy how people can care about more than one thing at a time, huh?

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          are you on drugs?

          palestine isnt a country and from how their people are they never will be a country. thank the UK for that. thank Fatah. thank the USA. Persia is long gone.

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      Pretty much anyone who isn’t a fan of another World War should care. This basically will set a precedent for whether a country can just up and invade its neighbor for territorial gain, and whether the world will just stand by and watch like we did with Sudetanland.

      If this ends with Russia’s defeat, it could cool a lot of simmering tensions as would be belligerents realize that the world will basically throw in with the people being invaded. Or, if Russia faces no consequences, it could demonstrate that the world is truly a bunch of self-interested nation states with no motivation beyond self preservation, and we should prepare for China starting its world tour any year now.