Sounds like they’re still operating under 2020 and 2022 logic. Biden is pretty widely disliked nowadays outside his own party and 2024 should in no way be viewed as an easy Dem win.
Granted, this is just survey identification. I have no doubt voter registrations are much more partisan. But, I’d argue being de facto corralled into one of two political parties due to voter registration requirements isn’t the same as a “growing party”.
I would argue that the huge amount of independents is everyone saying that they don’t want to be pigeon holed into anything online. No one wants that mail. We’ll never know how many R’s we’ve lost to the pandemic either, a lot of those states didn’t keep track of the deaths. I would never go on a Biden is awesome tour but he’s done way better than I ever thought he would/could. Trump & Desantis are actively and openly destroying democracy. So even if I call myself an independent, it’s an easy vote.
So I hope I don’t come off as too aggressive or anything here, I just want to combat as much of the classic Reddit misinformation while this space is still small
the huge number of independents is everyone saying that they don’t want to be pigeon holed into anything online
That isn’t how a Gallup poll works. It’s a randomized phone survey with elected participation. Now obviously there’s inherent self-selection bias with any such survey, but it’s still at least an indicator of trends. This type of poll is the best for assessing party sentiment, which is what the subject of the article is about and what my original comment was addressing.
We’ll never know how many Rs we’ve lost to the pandemic either
I don’t understand why people started thinking this? States may have done a bad job reporting cause of deaths, but the death still gets reported. Like… do people think there are a ton of unmarked graves in Florida or something?
Excess deaths modeling over 2020-22 means it’s pretty easy to figure out how many people died in the pandemic. Whether those people were R voters can be reasonably predicted from county/demographic makeup, such as this study here..
Again, hope you don’t read this as aggressive, I just want people to be better informed and stop listening to blog posts like they’re legitimate truths.
Uhh, what the hell is this article talking about? His approval has remained steady with both Republicans and all Americans, and even saw a small uptick recently..
Sounds like they’re still operating under 2020 and 2022 logic. Biden is pretty widely disliked nowadays outside his own party and 2024 should in no way be viewed as an easy Dem win.
That’s probably true but that party keeps getting bigger.
By the survey numbers that’s untrue, in terms of the share of voters. Gallup polls indicate the share of people who identify as Democrats has decreased consistently for about a decade, with a heavier decrease in the past three years.. Republicans have remained consistently lower than Dems, but that margin has shrunk considerably over the past decade. Independents make up the largest (and only growing) share of votes.
Granted, this is just survey identification. I have no doubt voter registrations are much more partisan. But, I’d argue being de facto corralled into one of two political parties due to voter registration requirements isn’t the same as a “growing party”.
This is a very weird poll
I would argue that the huge amount of independents is everyone saying that they don’t want to be pigeon holed into anything online. No one wants that mail. We’ll never know how many R’s we’ve lost to the pandemic either, a lot of those states didn’t keep track of the deaths. I would never go on a Biden is awesome tour but he’s done way better than I ever thought he would/could. Trump & Desantis are actively and openly destroying democracy. So even if I call myself an independent, it’s an easy vote.
So I hope I don’t come off as too aggressive or anything here, I just want to combat as much of the classic Reddit misinformation while this space is still small
That isn’t how a Gallup poll works. It’s a randomized phone survey with elected participation. Now obviously there’s inherent self-selection bias with any such survey, but it’s still at least an indicator of trends. This type of poll is the best for assessing party sentiment, which is what the subject of the article is about and what my original comment was addressing.
I don’t understand why people started thinking this? States may have done a bad job reporting cause of deaths, but the death still gets reported. Like… do people think there are a ton of unmarked graves in Florida or something?
Excess deaths modeling over 2020-22 means it’s pretty easy to figure out how many people died in the pandemic. Whether those people were R voters can be reasonably predicted from county/demographic makeup, such as this study here..
But to your point, if all we care about is who votes for whom in 2024, we can just survey that too. And surveys from basically every site, R or D funded, have the race at a dead heat with Biden only slightly edging out Trump.. Now as we learned in 2016, polls can be very, very wrong, but they’re really all we’ve got at this juncture.
Again, hope you don’t read this as aggressive, I just want people to be better informed and stop listening to blog posts like they’re legitimate truths.
I don’t think you’re aggressive at all, I think you’re cherry picking polls. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm#dashboard
??? How could I cherry-pick polls? I sent you the five-thirty-eight page containing a summary of all polls submitted lol
Not sure why you sent me the CDC excess deaths link? That data reflects the exact trends you’d expect.
The role of Democrats is to be as ineffective as possible but still retaining the appearance of Independence from republicans.
Biden is the worst choice, by necessity. If they picked a better candidate, they would have to represent.
Centrism, not even once