• regul [any]@hexbear.net
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    I don’t exactly want Russia’s current particular brand of ideology to be spread either. I just don’t see how you can look at this conflict and think either side are the “good” guys. Or how either result will be better than the other.

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      I don’t exactly want Russia’s current particular brand of ideology to be spread either.

      This is America’s brand of ideology injected into them by force after the collapse of the USSR. The USA is the #1 source of reaction on Earth, spreading it far and wide with their coups and actions. They are the blackest reaction, the source of all fucking evil and the hegemonic empire. They turned Ukraine into a Nazi cesspit. I don’t want America’s current particular brand of fascism to KEEP SPREADING LIKE IT HAS FOR 80 YEARS

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        If the Russian ideology and the American ideology are the same, and Ukraine’s getting one of them either way, how can you feel like there’s a side that’s worthy of support?

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          This is an extremely weird way of seeing geopolitics, as “ideology” spreading. It’s very neo-con and American.

          It’s about destroying the NATO army of the world empire. It’s that simple

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            Yeah it doesn’t really seem like that’s happening or has any chance of happening from this conflict.

            The US has been losing wars since the 50s, and they’re not even getting any American teenagers killed in this one.

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              It’s already happened. Ukraine’s military is decimated, they’ve lost 90% of their men and can’t mount any further attacks. They were built up from 2014-2022 to be the largest military in Europe, they were destroyed, they were re-built with massive donations from NATO and now they have been destroyed again. NATO has no more juice to squeeze. Russia has destroyed a massive portion of NATO’s munitions and have broken apart the largest military in Europe twice. Nobody else could have done this.

              De-dollarization and multipolarity has already made massive strides in just the last few years, as the rest of the world moves away from the west after seeing it’s actions in this conflict. America bought a few more years for itself by cannibalizing and destroying the industrial base of Europe and especially Germany, but in the long run their western bloc is breaking down and weakening. This is unlike Iraq, with those we didn’t see massive moves towards de-dollarization and multipolarity. And unlike the cold war, there seems to be only 2 camps instead of 3 - the golden billion and the other 6 outside the garden walls. The westoids and restofus

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                I mean China could have done it easily. But this is like saying the US is done for because the South Vietnamese army crumbled.

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                  Were there massive moves away from the USD due to the collapse of the South Vietnamese Army? Was the industrial base of Europe de-industrialized when America lost in Vietnam? No, unfortunately not. Things are moving now.

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                    I’d say moves away from the USD have more to do with the economic moves that China is making rather than the war in Ukraine. India’s new right-wing nationalist government moving away from a non-Trump US was kind of a given, too.

                    This stuff all seems like it could have been happening without thousands of people dying at war.

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      They’re killing Nazis and Americans. That makes them the good guys by definition. DPRK and China support them. How do you look at the situation and see it as “both sides are the same” when all AES are on one side in opposition to all western imperialists on the other?

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          Not a nation-state by their own admission, and they don’t really do anything anti-imperialist or materially support any other cause

          Russia is now rising to the sacred struggle to defend its state sovereignty and protect its security. We have always supported and stand by all decisions of President Putin and the Russian government. I hope that we will always stand together in the fight against imperialism.

          -Kim Jong Un, from one of the all time anti-imperialism MVP AES, the DPRK

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            You don’t have to be a state to be existing socialism.

            But the point is that there are socialists who share my view.

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              Ok, address my other point that they don’t really do anything with other socialist nations or involve themselves outside their region. They are entirely disconnected from the people involved here, whereas the nations on Asia and in Europe are not. It’s easier to get idealist and both-sides the further away you are from the nazis

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      Out of curiosity, do you think it was acceptable for leftists to give critical verbal support to Britain and France in 1939 in their fight against Nazi Germany?

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        I think that was absolutely correct, but other people here are telling me Lenin says the correct position is to always root for your imperial nation to lose no matter what because it will bring about communism.