Ikr. I think were now supposed to say something about how this kind of interaction is so reddit. Loudly enough that we can ignore that it’s just how people behave in general.

You know why it hurts so much? Because we know it’s true.

Damn you. But bless you too.

It is cowardly behaviour to refuse to look something up that “takes 5 seconds” because you wanted me too?

Nowhere was capitalism equated to realism in my posts. That does make any sense. Why would you write that?

You claim I do not understand precise language, and therefore do not know the first thing about socialism. That also makes no sense.

These are non-sequitors.

Your categorization is too general, and counterproductive. You’re apparent need to pigeon-hole strangers on the internet is sad.

Can you give me a quick definition according to Marxists of personal and private property?

It is possible, but not worth it.

That is capitalist realism for you.

That is realism. Which is usually quite valuable if you want to change a system.

You seem hell bent on apply the label capitalist as an epithet on just about everyone you respond to. Can you quickly tell us what you think it will accomplish?

Fun with labels. Generalization is for the lazy.

My deep, multi week long, post history? You must really know me.

You have no idea what systems I support, yet you assume I support capitalism because I didn’t agree with you, which says a lot. The only evidence of my beliefs I have provided is that I do not support your approach. Further, I do not believe your rhetoric is a genuine attempt to make the world any better for anyone.

You used the wrong quote from yourself. What you quoted from me was a reaction to this gem of a statement:

If you support capitalism and you’re not a capitalist you’re just a bootlicker.

which is black and white, and typical of us-good versus them-bad argument fallacies. If you live and participate in a capitalist system, as the vast majority of humanity does, you are, to some degree, supporting it.

Based on the comments in this thread I take your position to be it’s a matter of degree of support. Owning a truck isn’t capital, it’s apparently got to be a lot to make someone a capitalist. That is not leftist or anti-capitalist, but simply “eat the rich”. Most people exist in classes that participate in ways that keep the lower earners below. I do not believe most humans think this great system for all but feel helpless, and participate as a way to simply exist.

Surely spreading insulting, erudite rhetoric in online is not the solution.

Dang, for a moment I considered that you might have independent thoughts. This LemmtGradChatGPT BS ruined it.

And you live on your own self-sustaining compound, posting from your open hardware, fabricated in free factories, Libre software OS and applications, with compost-generated power? Didn’t think so. Welcome to the gray zone bootlicker.

But Signal is bad, an op-ed by one of Lemmy’s founders: https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html#conclusions

I certainly agree there is cause for caution, as one should always exercise where trust is placed in such matters. But there are leaps of bad logic in that writeup, and the dog pile of FUD swirling around Signal feels nearly orchestrated.

The one you defend’s choice of who is a bigot is opinion, and far from objective.

How very hexbear of you. I only meant… I only wanted to clarify… Usually ending with a very narrow definition of some word that everyone else must understand your version of or they deserve dunking. Yes, without definitions words are meaningless, blah blah blah, back into another meaningless discussion. My gosh, yall like to extend nonsense ad nauseum.

How very hexbear of you to generalize and slander.

Subjectivity abound.

Why not call them capitalists? Seems more direct and less dog-whistle-ish.

How?

Yep, I’m in compete agreement on neoliberalism.

Do not confuse the politico landscape with academic definitions.

My guess is we disagree on which makes a difference in the world, Not you personally (I just don’t know), but I usually find Marxism a refuge for those disconnected from reality. It’s so boring, having been hashed out enumerable times. Plus it has never existed in reality, and never will because it does not account for realities of human nature.

The proletariat dunks again.

In whatever you call the systems of nearly every corner of the modern world. Because they are all hybrids and usually contain some degree of these elements. Discussion pure versions of any economic system is an academic exercise and only tangentially related to reality.