echognomics [he/him]

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Cake day: May 8th, 2021

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  • Nah, it’s funny even if Trump leaked documents for personal profit or due to general incompetence. Maybe funnier, since it’s Uncle Sam tripped up by an individual idiot perfectly embodying the nation’s core capitalist qualities of rapacity and hubris

    Also, it doesn’t really matter if Trump didn’t do it for ideological or moral reasons. Nobody in the colonised world cares too much about how amerikkka imperial hegemony is disrupted, so long as it is.



  • That interpretation sounds like a plausible socially progressive reading of the law, given that there’s a proviso to address cases where a person rapes a military spouse “by means of violence, coercion or other means” (it refers such cases to Article 236, which concerns cases of rape by violence or coercion in general). One could argue the addition of this proviso implies that the entire article is intended to be read as a law to protect the welfare of military spouses, addressing different ways a man could take advantage of a lonely military spouse, either by dishonest seduction (dishonest because conviction under the law requires proof of the man knowing that the woman is already married), or by force/abuse of position. The relevant clause of the Chinese criminal law code reads:

    第二百五十九条 明知是现役军人的配偶而与之同居或者结婚的,处三年以下有期徒刑或者拘役。 利用职权、从属关系,以胁迫手段奸淫现役军人的妻子的,依照本法第二百三十六条的规定定罪处罚。

    Article 259: Anyone who cohabits with or marries a spouse of an active-duty serviceman knowing that the spouse is the spouse of an active-duty serviceman shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than three years or criminal detention. Anyone who uses his power or subordinate relationship to coerce and rape the wife of an active serviceman shall be convicted and punished in accordance with the provisions of Article 236 of this Law.

    Of course, the broad way that the law is phrased reveals big blindspot in the provision, as it kinda fails to consider or address a possibie situation where a military spouse could or would want to exercise agency by actively seeking out affairs while their spouse is deployed.

    Edit: Actually, upon reading the criminal law code further I realise that it also contains a general criminalisation of bigamy in Article 258 (anyone “who has a spouse and commits bigamy, or who marries another person knowing that the other person has a spouse” can get up to two years imprisonment). So, I guess in cases where a military spouse actually remarries while the soldier is deployed, that would also open her (or him/them) up to some criminal liability. However, if she’s “merely” having an affair, or cohabiting, she’s technically not liable for any crime. Which means, on a structural level, the law is a little more lenient on the military spouse as compared to the jody. This further supports the argument that it’s more accurate to read Article 259, which addresses only the person seeking to marry or cohabit with the military spouse, as theoretically aimed at protecting military spouses from being taken advantage of while their husbands are deployed instead of it being a law meant to punish military spouse infidelity, since it distinctly doesn’t seek to punish the cheating military spouse like Article 258 does for general bigamy. If Article 259 was intended to punish all military spouse infidelity, it logically would need to treat both the military spouse and the person they cheated similarly.



  • Yeah. A Chinese court can probably easily differentiate between “recognising” a factual instance of bigamy (or in this case, lesbian cohabitation) while still treating it as an illegal act, and “decriminalising”/“legalising” a practice by court judgment. I would assume that any legal system would inherently need to be able to do the former without necessarily overreaching into the latter, because if that ability isn’t there then it may be theoretically possible to perversely argue that judges actually cannot impose derivative criminal libilities or pass sentences on convicted persons because courts should not recognise (i.e., legalise) a crime by doing so. In general, arguments along the pattern that a civil case cannot be won because a requirement of the relevant civil law concept is already criminal act are inherently silly, since nobody is going to argue that a civil case to get compensation for physical battery cannot be found because battery is also a criminal offence. It’s the literal/plain meaning rule being taken to the dumbest conclusion, i.e., the cases you teach in law school (if such cases exist) to show why concepts like the mischief rule/golden rule/purposive approach are necessary.

    In fact, the current situation is probably a weaker case than the bigamy example that you provided, given that unlike bigamy, “cohabitation” (or infidelity) is not even a criminal act per se, just a criteria to tick so as to fulfil other legal liabilities. So, the court can easily just say "we recognise that people sometimes have gay/lesbian relationships outside marriage, and that for LGBTQ people such relationships fit under the definition of “living as if husband and wife” without seriously worrying that somehow according to some crazy literalist interpretation they’ve created gay marriage. Somehow I don’t think LGBTQ activists in China would view that as commendable and actual progress towards legalisation of gay marriage.


  • Hmm, the person tweeting this (as far as I can tell, they’re not living in China currently, and is some 1st gen Chinese Canadian YA author who writes Chinese history-inspired fantasy/SF) provided some “elaboration” on the alleged situation:-

    The source is from a Chinese lawyer. The law about “ruining a military marriage” specifies committing bigamy or cohabitating with a military spouse, and cohabitation is currently defined as “living as if husband and wife”

    If the court wants to charge these women they are then recognizing that two women can legally have a relationship as serious as that of a husband and wife

    (responding question whether the cheating couple is being imprisoned) No the soldier is threatening to sue the women unless they give him 200k RMB (27k USD) but they are threatening to counter-sue him for extortion. So right now it’s just threats. Even the lawyer I saw this from doesn’t know how a court would rule in this case.

    Not sure about the anonymous “Chinese lawyer” source that they’re relying on, and I can’t find a news source reporting on this case; elsewhere in the thread they posted an SCMP article, but it was about a “coventional” heterosexual jody case from earlier this year). Be that as it may, on first glance, the purpoted legal logic doesn’t seem to be completely without legs to me? If cohabitation is legally defined as “living as if husband and wife”, it seems at least arguable (not saying that it’s an argument that Chinese courts will definitely accept) that the court cannot legally recognise a “lesbian cohabitation” situation without first recognising the concept of a marriage/legally-recognised union between two women?





  • “When I am writing an email to a filmmaker, I’m writing as a filmmaker, somebody who’s bringing the truth to the world,” he continued. “That is my goal here. To show what started everything. The atrocities, the mini-Holocaust that happened there, that we as a nation, we as the world cannot stand still and silent and just move on. Now, it doesn’t mean that I’m not pro-Palestinian. I am pro-two state solution. I have Palestinian friends. I am a left wing filmmaker, but this is not a left or right wing thing. This is just something that the whole world should see it. So that’s my mission.”

    both-sides Israeli “left wing filmmaker”, whose politically-enlightened “left wing” but still centrist analysis of the Palestinian situation is that “Hamas started all the violence when they attacked on October 7th”.




  • Wait that makes communism sound cool and metal as fuck.

    Part of me kinda wish we lived in the fantasy world these people say they believe in, where instead of reading theory and attending party meetings, communists are actually mighty wizard-shamans who gain esoteric mystical powers through constantly doing gay orgiastic rituals, and then use it to summon spirits of the ancestral dead in order to perform crazy magical feats like making entire nation-spanning train networks appear out of mid-air or transmuting arid deserts into dense forests.






  • Errr, I think he’s trying to do satirical verse (ala Swift’s A Modest Proposal) to say that leftists are actually the Real RacistsTM (apparently Woke Progressives insist on everything existing on spectrums with absurdly marginal and meaningless differentiations (like how sexuality/gender are on a spectrum?), and also hypocrites who don’t really believe in the validity of the racist race spectrums that they impose on people like him (apparently Woke Progressives are ok with black people “identifying” as white people?)…? Also apparently race just means different shades of skin colours?

    Or is he just unironically doing Advanced Race Theory, Measurehead-style?

    Or both?

    limmy-what


  • I don’t think he’s even being as generous or sophisticated as “the government is unable to do nice things because of LaWs oF eCoNoMiCs”, really. The guy’s rhetoric sounds to me more like “these nice things may sound nice to you, but actually they are complete lies which those city-slicker commie liberals tell us honest god-fearing folks to get into power and once in office they’ll take do all the bad things that we don’t like (i.e. the same bipartisan neoliberal and neoimperial policies with a trendy new “progressive” veneer instead of good old-fashioned American flag aesthetics) instead of any of these good things which they promised”.

    edit: Which isn’t better, I guess, but kinda interesting as an illustration of how while the two US ruling parties want effectively the same things policy-wise, Republicans operate with the assumption that Democrats are always acting in bad faith/with treasonous intent.