TheUniqueOne

You murdering monster

We make way more than enough food to feed everyone hell even everyone at the highest projected world population we will reach around 2050 its malthusian to advocate killing the poor to “control population of humans.” Animals are people they have subjective experience wishes wants. You can’t define people in a way to include humans and not other animals. Animals are sentient all science supports this that you deny it doesn’t change it neither does your anecdote. Your hamster probably ate its young because its stressed you are enslaving it. I hope your murdering ass chokes and dies in agony,

Thanks. Its very kind of you to support brown children to get into heaven early.

Okay hope very much your imperialist boot licker ass chokes in your sleep.

You also heavily attack my opposition to drones which was a very minor point that was obviously more about the mass slaughter of innocents than what precisely is used to kill them. You said you opposed the Iraq war but you framed it as the US making a well intention mistake and not the genocidal exploitation of a nation that it was.

Why are advocating for the democratic party just for this single issue. If so great maybe you will get a slightly better healthcare plan while poor children in the third world are killed by the people you help keep in power while you feel good about yourself.

It’s a pipe dream that you believe the democratic party which enforces white patriarchal capitalist interests as a core part of their platform could ever radically transform society and stop the unimaginable harm they are doing.

Your are now arguing for malthusianism the human population isn’t a problem. I want to be vegan because animals are people with lives of their own, who have families, who want to live and who have no real difference to humans. The fact that you are justifying the mass slaughter of people with nonsense arguments of word salad makes you a monster who nobody should ever love. Advocating the way you suggest wouldn’t be fighting against the commodity status of animals all it would do is make some people consume minuscule less meat not stop the ongoing genocide. You are a monster.

Okay you want healthcare what are your plans for stopping the Saudi bombing of Yemen, the Israeli genocide of Palestinians, the violence of the border, the current police state and so many other things democrats support as well as republicans never mind capitalism and its major harm to everyone in general.

Where in my comment and in this post overall was Russia and Ukraine brought up. Nowhere. Go off though I guess.

Except democrats still support an imperialist police state.

Okay? So we shouldn’t ever be bombing anyone obviously.

Except its mixed with new bad. Don’t let the oh this may be and that’s a big maybe slightly less bad and I should fight for it be answer instead of actually reconstructing society as is so clearly needed. There is no good in the democratic party I’m not arguing for perfection but for actually fighting to improve.

You are absolutely vile the US brutally murdered over 1 million Iraqis in brutal war crimes that you are justifying that is insane. They got the exploitation they think they could and it was no longer economically beneficial to stay that’s why they left they half the time don’t even lie about this. The US isn’t a bumbling idiot with good intentions but a bumbling idiot trying and succeeding to enrich itself on top of mountains of innocent blood. Drone attacks are not good they murder so many innocent civilians that you are okay with that is insane. Imperialism is the act of maintaining and extending power over foreign nations how is everything I describe not America doing that to the letter.

Animals rape other animals should it be okay for you to rape others as well?

Yep sucks :(

Again you just ignored my other point that even if you are right again scientifically that’s a big if the broader idea to decrease deaths would still be to completely end animal agriculture.

Local ranchers can’t provide any reasonable kind of meat or dairy production for our population no matter how much the ideal farm you are picturing is a myth still using widespread abuse of the animals. Cows would live in drastically lesser numbers on sanctuaries and such. Breeding a population to kill for your sense pleasure isn’t justified unless you would be okay doing the same to humans.

The US is undoubtedly imperialist I don’t see how you can deny that. What was the invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan and the 50 foreign governments overthrown if they don’t align up exactly to American elites business interests. What do you call predatory loans, the station of military bases, the constant drone attacks and much more if not imperialism. The US isn’t a net good in any way expect to their own and closely allied elites the trade is used to enforce brutal neo liberal austerity metric to benefit American business interests at the expense of immense local suffering, the influence and military presence does the same in different often more violent ways. The US supports not opposes 73% of the worlds current dictatorships. It backed Pinochet as he murdered his way to power. it backed Suharto on his genocide; today it backs Saudi Arabia as it crushes and oppresses the Yemenis and Israel as it is currently genocides the Palestinian people. To claim American imperialism as not imperialism and worse than that as a net good is to deny basic reality.

Nice conversation you really stimulated a healthy debate.