Yeah man, but these are real people and not hypothetical worker drones in an internet comment. If they all get fired and don’t have money for food and rent, that’s really fucking bad. You can’t say “it’s always good to organize! Just take the risk of getting evicted from your apartment! Don’t let them boss you around!” And not expect the working class Joe in the factory to look at you like you’re the dumbest guy around
Organizing isn’t “taking the risk”. Not organizing is taking the risk.
Organizing is your only defense against arbitrary dismissals and lacking the right to push back against abusive practices (along with voting for leaders who will enforce robust labor laws). If you want to get randomly fired in retaliation for exercising your rights the safest way to get there is to have nobody who can leverage the ability of workers to grind production to a halt.
But hey, here’s the fun part about collective bargaining and worker action: “working class Joe” doesn’t need to take that risk, you just need enough people to set up and fight for Joe’s rights regardless. If Joe feels he has to scab because he can’t take the risk that’s what picket lines are for.
Gotta say, looking at the context of your feed it’s quite baffling to see someone go “Biden is too far to the right to vote for him, can’t compromise my leftist ideology that much, so I’ll go third party” and “unions are fine on paper, but you gotta be realist and let your boss step all over you, because losing your job isn’t an ideological hypothetical”.
After a while one may think that one of those strong stances is disingenuous when both are held at once.
Yeah man, but these are real people and not hypothetical worker drones in an internet comment. If they all get fired and don’t have money for food and rent, that’s really fucking bad. You can’t say “it’s always good to organize! Just take the risk of getting evicted from your apartment! Don’t let them boss you around!” And not expect the working class Joe in the factory to look at you like you’re the dumbest guy around
Organizing isn’t “taking the risk”. Not organizing is taking the risk.
Organizing is your only defense against arbitrary dismissals and lacking the right to push back against abusive practices (along with voting for leaders who will enforce robust labor laws). If you want to get randomly fired in retaliation for exercising your rights the safest way to get there is to have nobody who can leverage the ability of workers to grind production to a halt.
But hey, here’s the fun part about collective bargaining and worker action: “working class Joe” doesn’t need to take that risk, you just need enough people to set up and fight for Joe’s rights regardless. If Joe feels he has to scab because he can’t take the risk that’s what picket lines are for.
Gotta say, looking at the context of your feed it’s quite baffling to see someone go “Biden is too far to the right to vote for him, can’t compromise my leftist ideology that much, so I’ll go third party” and “unions are fine on paper, but you gotta be realist and let your boss step all over you, because losing your job isn’t an ideological hypothetical”.
After a while one may think that one of those strong stances is disingenuous when both are held at once.
That’s a nice platitude but it’s also completely fucking detached for reality lol.
Read Germinal by Zola if you need to. But other than that you’re still just jerking yourself off without any actual care for actual people