• @PhlubbaDubba
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    You forgot to edit out that last part that gives the game away that calling anti-zionism antisemitism is just a cheap tactic to discredit criticism of Israeli crimes against humanity.

    • @dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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      11 month ago

      I genuinely didn’t know better until my conversation with Deceptichum and Prinebutt. I’m still learning on this topic. It’s not coming easy to me for some reason. I do understand Israel is committing war crimes and acts of genocide. That’s pretty obvious. It’s the subtle nuances that I’m struggling with, and it honestly confuses me sometimes.

    • @WamGams@lemmy.ca
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      The issue is a lot of antizionists are also antisemites. We shouldn’t have to parse through the rhetoric, but sadly, we sometimes do.

      • @PhlubbaDubba
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        231 month ago

        Are you kidding me? Antisemites love Israel!

        They don’t see a country of jews, they see a concentration camp with a UN vote that also does the work of killing Arabs for them until papa J comes back!

        • @WamGams@lemmy.ca
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          Ironically, this is the exact sort of thing I was talking about. Thanks for giving a demonstration.

          • @PhlubbaDubba
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            Facts aren’t antisemitic, and the dynamic I described is something Israel’s politicians are well aware of when they donate to so called “christian zionists” in the west.

            They don’t actually want to be a bastion for the defense of jewish kind, in fact there are few people they hate more than jews who have actually faced antisemitism. They call holocaust survivor families soap people and fund politicians like MTG hoping that the more antisemites that come to power in the west the more they can lure more recruits to israel as fresh bodies for the war against Arab people being allowed to exist.

            Do you know the settlers intend to take everything between the Euphrates and the Nile? You’re claiming I’m the antisemitic one for being against a state that treats holocaust survivor families like garbage and literally has its own modern version of Lebensraum.

            Fuck off “tHaNkS fOr DuH dEmOnStRaTiOn” you apartheid apologist fuckass.

      • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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        11 month ago

        And all Zionists are antisemites.

        I’d say that’s a far larger issue than a few nazis pretending to be “antizionists.”

        • @WamGams@lemmy.ca
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          11 month ago

          What percentage of Jews are Zionists? I don’t know but I think it might be a bit stupid to suggest most Jews hate themselves.

          • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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            11 month ago

            Zionism was literally invented by Christian antisemites in the UK - Zionists are the ultimate kapos.

            It’s very easy to be self-hating when you’ve been brainwashed into channeling that self-hate into militarism and nationalism.

            • @WamGams@lemmy.ca
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              11 month ago

              So what percentage of Jews are you claiming hate themselves?

              I need solid numbers here, which will be easy to fins, if what you say is true.

                  • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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                    21 month ago

                    Who do you think you’re talking to? A liberal?

                    When you’re done cowering behind distractions, we can continue this conversation.