Even Google has had enough of this shit.

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    2 months ago

    Exactly.

    Poor leadership permits political talk. Or any talk that is divisive or off-topic.

    Talking about your weekend escapades is also frowned upon, for the same reasons - they’re both juvenile, ego-centric, and off topic.

    No professional wants to hear about how drunk you got and who you screwed.

    This is like business 101 stuff.

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      2 months ago

      Trigger Warning: Communism

      See, this whole conversation is why Marx’s theory of alienation is a thing. It assumes that the employees are at work purely for the sake of working, as if employees consent to how other’s use the product of their work by virtue of their employment. But the relationship between what a worker does and what a company does with it is important. For those of that aren’t genocide supporters and can’t square the circle by abstracting our work from those that use it for murdering other people, talking about it challenges the underlying justification for permitting it in the first place. Like yeah, Google is invested in information technology and all that, but why does that necessarily mean they must have a relationship with Israel to more effectively target Palestinians using Google Cloud for artificial applications? Not being allowed to talk about that is quintessential alienation in the Marxian sense.

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        I can get behind both ideas. I think it really depends on the culture, and team morale. Lets be real, sometimes you just want some water cooler talk instead of going to another meeting. And sometimes, that one guy talks so much, you hesitate inviting him to any meetings because you know he’ll make it twice as long as it should be. As goes the old saying goes, it’s all about balance.

        I’m of the mind that you can talk about minor things, like sports and the weather and whatnot, but if you start bragging about your teams latest win to your coworkers excessively, well, take it down a few notches. Don’t make others uncomfortable.

        And don’t talk politics. At best, you’ll make enemies of idiots, at worst, you’ll outed as the idiot.

        Or at least, that’s my two cents.

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        Google is invested in information technology and all that, but why does that necessarily mean they must have a relationship with Israel to more effectively target Palestinians using Google Cloud for artificial applications?

        If you don’t like it leave. It’s that simple.

        In a Marxist country, you’d be put in prison for disagreeing. In a country like ours, you can go create your own company to compete with Google if you don’t like what they do

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          Well, they did leave…by force. But that still leaves Google supplementing genocide and them out of job. Ideally, they’d still have a job, and Google would uphold the human right to life. But Pichai sidesteps that contention altogether by decree: “Don’t talk about it!”

          In a Marxist country, you’d be put in prison for disagreeing.

          In a capitalist country where life is cheap, you’ll lose your livelihood refusing to contribute to murder on an industrial scale. So, trade-offs, I guess.

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            But that still leaves Google supplementing genocide and them out of job

            America doesn’t see it as genocide. Neither does Google. Sometimes it’s a tough pill to swallow but not everyone agrees it’s a genocide. I don’t. The only people I see being genocide are the Jews which is why Gaza is being invaded.

            Ideally they’d do their job. They’re not a charity. Pichai did the right thing. Their customer is buying their products. The employees can work or be fired. That’s their options.

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              Well, I guess it’s better that Google enable mass murder than employees oppose it, according to your logic.

              What’s funny is that after the atrocities of WWII, there were all these books written about “How could they do that?!” Well, if they thought like you, it’s pretty clear: it was always warranted. The only thing that really mattered was whether people did their jobs.

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                2 months ago

                There is no mass murder going on. You’re seeing something most people don’t see.

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                  How many murders in a mass murder?

                  The answer is 3. If Israel has killed more than 3 Palestinian civilians, it’s mass murder according to US law.

                  Just because the current leadership won’t come out and say it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

                  The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

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                    The US government does not agree with you.

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      This is why the younger generation struggles at work. They don’t get its work. It’s not play time while getting paid.