• NeuromancerOPM
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    2 months ago

    And what is your solution ? You just want to eliminate health insurance ?

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      No, I think we should limit the cost of drugs based solely on cost to manufacture and distribute, and pay those operational costs.

      I think we should expect to receive healthcare from medical professionals and pay them for their time and operational costs.

      I think private health insurance existing as an optional, supplemental option is a step in the correct direction.

      I think profiting off such a system is parasitic to our wellbeing and detrimental to the betterment of society.

      Ultimately we need to look at healthcare and education as an investment in our country’s well-being.

      A population that is healthy, educated and safe is a population that is happier, can fight off threats better and innovate more. A country that fails to produce an effective population is not a successful country for long.

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        No, I think we should limit the cost of drugs based solely on cost to manufacture and distribute, and pay those operational costs

        If we payed for the research. I agree. Otherwise companies will just spend less on research. I don’t mind capping margins unless they don’t enforce the patent.

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          Yeah research is part of the cost to manufacture cause you first need to know what you’re making hahaha.

          Margin-capping isn’t even something to consider when you don’t run it for profit. with wages for workers included in the cost to manufacture and distribute there’s no need to profit further.

          I think the people should own the means of production where it makes sense. Healthcare is an obvious example because it’s a service directly for us.

          People getting rich and making millions off the suffering of an unhealthy population is morally wrong.

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            2 months ago

            If there is no profit, then nobody would make it.

            think the people should own the means of production where it makes sense.

            It never makes sense. You can do that now, but nobody does because it doesn’t make sense.

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              If there is no profit, then nobody would make it.

              You forgot the part where I said their pay is considered part of the cost to manufacture and distribute.

              Non-profits have no problem staying staffed.

              It absolutely makes sense for the people to own the mechanism that directly benefits their wellbeing, yes.

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                2 months ago

                Then why haven’t you started this business? Sounds like you have it all figured out

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                  2 months ago

                  Because we need congressional action to make it legal, and to make the current system of profiteering off healthcare illegal.

                  I would love to be a part of those discussions and fully intend to continue doing so ;)

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                    It is already legal. You can start your own company tomorrow and make it a non-profit. So why haven’t you done it?