• forrgott
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    2 months ago

    Can you provide a source?

    If not, just know that I would have to reject your claims, seeing as how they contradict information from a reputable source.

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      2 months ago

      If you’re asking for a source be specific…

      If not, just know that the person you’re asking will either ignore you or have to randomly guess what you mean.

      During the last ice age, which ended roughly 10,000 years ago, a massive ice sheet covered what’s roughly the northern third of the continent. Scientists think that this most recent glaciation killed off the earthworms that may have inhabited the area.

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        2 months ago

        The European worms colonizers brought are fine, they’re similar enough to the ones that used to be here.

        What’s bad are the “crazy worms” which I believe come from Asia?

        You can tell the difference because a normal worm just moves around like you’d expect. A “crazy worm” is like a fish out of water violently flopping around.

        Those you should kill because they’re invasive.

        But the worms we remember as kids are fine. Just non-native, but that’s different than evasive.

        There, its specific now. Provide sources

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          2 months ago

          OPs article actually backs up most of that…

          And if you didn’t read that (don’t feel too bad, neither did OP) why would I take the time to find more articles you won’t read?

          How about a quiz, if you accurately find the answers that are in the article, and post the answers you found for the class, I’ll find sources for the rest.

          Show me you care about learning more than arguing, and I have zero issues taking the time to help.

          Don’t, and that’s cool. But I’m not here to argue, so I’ll probably just block you

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            2 months ago

            OPs article actually backs up most of that…

            no, it doesnt. it talks about worms european colonizers brought, that you claim are fine, and doesn’t mention asia or “crazy worms” anywhere, nor any of the distinguishing behavior you’re talking about.

            Provide sources

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              2 months ago

              IDK why I caused such a fighting

              The article and what I said is 100% accurate about the northern US and most of Canada

              It’s not accurate as to the southern US or North American in general. Wherever the glaciers came they killed the earthworms, and for the most part they didn’t bounce back (for reasons that to me are not clear) until the Europeans brought European worms, but outside of glacier reach everything was fine and earthworms and forests have both been happy.

              Citation is OP article + Smithsonian link + Wikipedia link posted elsewhere; they all say more or less the same thing

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                  Crazy worms are real; it’s a whole different issue of invasive species as opposed to the issue of normal earthworms being above 45 degrees latitude in the first place.

                  I still think that the whole issue with crazy worms is, more or less, that they can do the exact same damage the non crazy worms can do, just a little more effectively, and so it’s sort of a side issue as you were saying. I think there’s a certain confusion between “invasive worms” meaning one or the other. But IDK, I am not a worm expert, I just learned this stuff today.

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        2 months ago

        Um, please source specifically the entirety of your claims…???

        What are you even talking about?!

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          2 months ago

          I was trying to give you the chance to specifically ask what you wanted a source for…

          Because I was trying to help you, despite your attitude.