• TranscendentalEmpire
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    because they were near the power source and their muscles spasmed.

    Okay… So you have admitted that people can be electrocuted in large bodies of water, meaning your initial theory was incorrect. Now your dispute is the scale and intensity?

    Wouldn’t that be explained by a power source with a much higher output? Kinda like the several industrial sized generators They described in the article I linked?

    Any other examples?

    How often do you think people have purposely killed people with this tactic?

    I guess you could look up the electrified lock systems they use in the great lakes to kill invasive species? Though I don’t really know why you’re so sceptical?

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      I’m not sure why this guy’s so reluctant to accept something that sticking a bunch of high voltage cables in a swamp isn’t something Iraq would’ve done in that war. I don’t even mean in a “oh they did immoral things way”, I mean in a “they were basically doing ACME shit the entire war” way.

      Did Iraq probably heavily inflate the number killed? Absolutely. Even if they weren’t trying to, they had tons of barbed wire and floating mines in that swamp, so kinda hard to distinguish what killed who when all you care about is building corpse road. But they also absolutely electrified a swamp during the battle of the marshes, and it absolutely did kill people.

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        Oh I don’t put it past Iraq, I’m sure they’d have been up for it. I’m just reluctant to accept the physics

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          I’m just reluctant to accept the physics

          Why?

          I think you are misunderstanding the nature of electrical grounding. If they had laid wires at the bottom of the marsh, then yes it likely would have grounded. However if you float the wires to the surface then the water and the nonconductive particles in the water act as resistors. When the soldier enters the area they act as a conductor, acting as the path of least resistance from the source to the ground.

          It’s pretty basic physics.

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      Does it count as electrocution if you drown from a shock? Maybe I guess. Looked up the great lakes thing but I’m still not buying it. Never mind, thanks for the internet argument!

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        Does it count as electrocution if you drown from a shock?

        I would think the important bit of information is that they were shocked…which according to your theory isn’t possible.

        The only difference between a shock and an electrocution is the voltage. Wiring for a dock as the examples you brought up were likely only from a 120v supply, if it has been 220v or higher they likely would have died from electrocution.

        Looked up the great lakes thing but I’m still not buying it.

        Lol, I guess that what happens when you try appealing to a stone.