Indeed, I suspect we’d see some movement on gun control if minorities and marginalized people would begin exercising their 2A rights. We all know the story of Reagan and the Black Panthers and how that played out, I suspect the same thing would happen again.
At any rate, I recommend all my LGBTQ/PoC friends arm yourself now, spend some time at a range, maybe get some basic first-aid training, and most importantly start meeting and networking with like-minded people in your area, start building networks of people who’re on your side. Law enforcement will not protect us; if the rightwing has their way we’ll be living A Handmaids Tale and a lot of us will be dead or forced into some form of slavery. Fuck that, this is America, we’re not a Christian nation no matter how much a bunch of fundamentalists want us to be, we’re the land of the free, and when they decide to fuck around they need to find out.
if you’re under the impression they won’t figure out some way to create one law for “good christian americans” and a separate law for “those people” you fundamentally misunderstand what conservatism is about
This already exists! Many states have a denial clause in their concealed carry weapons permitting that is 🙄 justified🙄 for, “good cause” or “good moral character”. Given the rate of mass shootings, and the disproportionate number of them being committed by white men, it’s not a jump to say without clear definitions “good cause”, and “good moral character” are just another codified excuse to justify systemic oppression.
Or they’ll just do what they’re already doing and enforce the law one way for this kkk member brandishing a loaded gun at minorities that Republicans hate, and another way for people like Tamir Rice.
Thankfully I have friends with a lot of land, but my local range is owned by an avid trump supporter. I’ve had serious conversation with my wife about owning a gun but she’d never pass a background check due to her mental health history.
There’s a range here that requires an NRA membership to even join lol, I laughed in a ladies face when she told me that. I’m fortunate enough to live in a place with a few nice, public-access ranges that are run by/in cooperation with state parks and those are usually a little more welcoming places run by Rangemasters who take their job seriously.
Shooting can be a really fun hobby and a great way to bond with friends and family, it’s a shame it’s been so politicized and mischaracterized by people with questionable motivations.
I mean people used to be armed all the time and there wasn’t a daily massacre.
people like saying this, what could possibly go wrong? but really, what could really go wrong?
this kkk dude would have be dead for pulling a gun in front of an armed group, maybe he kills one but this should level out at some point. the crazies will cull themselves out.
Every other 1st world nation without an armed populous= no regular gun violence/massacres
Us as a nation= regularly experienced gun violence and massacres
We even have a test group- Australia. Experienced one gigantic massacre, took guns away, no more gunviolence/massacres.
And if that doesn’t sway you in the least, I can’t believe you think everybody in this nation is competent enough to be armed?!? I don’t even think everybody is competent enough to have a driver’s license and be on the road operating a dangerous high speed vehicle, (not to mention you need both a license and insurance to legally operate a car). I mean, have you met the “average” American? And you think EVERYONE should be able to legally own firearms?? Just nuts.
i want to add - if you need to arm yourself but for some reason cannot have a gun, there are non-lethal weapons and guns out there. not perfect, but definitely better than going completely unarmed. if you are able to workout, that helps too. if you’re unarmed and a fast runner or a good fighter, that again is better than nothing at all.
this is exactly the situation. if everyone gets guns to protect from other guns then every thing turns into a gun battle and we all end up blind. and dead.
well if all it takes for that not to happen is the homophobes to treat the lgbtq+ community with some respect, for whatever reason, than maybe homophobes should show the lgbtq+ community some respect and leave them alone.
Except most of them are cowards who want easy targets. These fascist LARPers don’t want an epic shootout where they’d be even slightly at risk.
Though I admit that will become less true as current trends escalate. So it’s not a solution, more of a shitty workaround for a conflict that seems unsolvable and unavoidable.
This is why we need to arm ourselves - because the right wing chud lunatics are out for blood.
And cops are complicit.
Indeed, I suspect we’d see some movement on gun control if minorities and marginalized people would begin exercising their 2A rights. We all know the story of Reagan and the Black Panthers and how that played out, I suspect the same thing would happen again.
At any rate, I recommend all my LGBTQ/PoC friends arm yourself now, spend some time at a range, maybe get some basic first-aid training, and most importantly start meeting and networking with like-minded people in your area, start building networks of people who’re on your side. Law enforcement will not protect us; if the rightwing has their way we’ll be living A Handmaids Tale and a lot of us will be dead or forced into some form of slavery. Fuck that, this is America, we’re not a Christian nation no matter how much a bunch of fundamentalists want us to be, we’re the land of the free, and when they decide to fuck around they need to find out.
Let’s start a group “Muslims for gun rights” and watch bigotry work its magic…
if you’re under the impression they won’t figure out some way to create one law for “good christian americans” and a separate law for “those people” you fundamentally misunderstand what conservatism is about
This already exists! Many states have a denial clause in their concealed carry weapons permitting that is 🙄 justified🙄 for, “good cause” or “good moral character”. Given the rate of mass shootings, and the disproportionate number of them being committed by white men, it’s not a jump to say without clear definitions “good cause”, and “good moral character” are just another codified excuse to justify systemic oppression.
Or they’ll just do what they’re already doing and enforce the law one way for this kkk member brandishing a loaded gun at minorities that Republicans hate, and another way for people like Tamir Rice.
Thankfully I have friends with a lot of land, but my local range is owned by an avid trump supporter. I’ve had serious conversation with my wife about owning a gun but she’d never pass a background check due to her mental health history.
There’s a range here that requires an NRA membership to even join lol, I laughed in a ladies face when she told me that. I’m fortunate enough to live in a place with a few nice, public-access ranges that are run by/in cooperation with state parks and those are usually a little more welcoming places run by Rangemasters who take their job seriously.
Shooting can be a really fun hobby and a great way to bond with friends and family, it’s a shame it’s been so politicized and mischaracterized by people with questionable motivations.
Or if it’s anything like in Germany, the cops and the right wing nutjobs are the same people.
Some of those that work forces…
Yes. The solution is everyone should be armed all time. What could possibly go wrong?
I mean people used to be armed all the time and there wasn’t a daily massacre.
people like saying this, what could possibly go wrong? but really, what could really go wrong?
this kkk dude would have be dead for pulling a gun in front of an armed group, maybe he kills one but this should level out at some point. the crazies will cull themselves out.
Listen friend. It’s a pretty simple equation:
Every other 1st world nation without an armed populous= no regular gun violence/massacres
Us as a nation= regularly experienced gun violence and massacres
We even have a test group- Australia. Experienced one gigantic massacre, took guns away, no more gunviolence/massacres.
And if that doesn’t sway you in the least, I can’t believe you think everybody in this nation is competent enough to be armed?!? I don’t even think everybody is competent enough to have a driver’s license and be on the road operating a dangerous high speed vehicle, (not to mention you need both a license and insurance to legally operate a car). I mean, have you met the “average” American? And you think EVERYONE should be able to legally own firearms?? Just nuts.
i want to add - if you need to arm yourself but for some reason cannot have a gun, there are non-lethal weapons and guns out there. not perfect, but definitely better than going completely unarmed. if you are able to workout, that helps too. if you’re unarmed and a fast runner or a good fighter, that again is better than nothing at all.
An eye for an eye, leaves the whole world blind.
true but thats not at all what the person is saying. they are saying they need to defend themselves for if/when these asshats come after them.
this is exactly the situation. if everyone gets guns to protect from other guns then every thing turns into a gun battle and we all end up blind. and dead.
well if all it takes for that not to happen is the homophobes to treat the lgbtq+ community with some respect, for whatever reason, than maybe homophobes should show the lgbtq+ community some respect and leave them alone.
Except most of them are cowards who want easy targets. These fascist LARPers don’t want an epic shootout where they’d be even slightly at risk.
Though I admit that will become less true as current trends escalate. So it’s not a solution, more of a shitty workaround for a conflict that seems unsolvable and unavoidable.
“Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!“
Bruh ain’t time for that.
You’re right, my bad, what your country needs is surely more guns, that will solve everything.
What we actually need is fewer nazis. I’ve heard they were defeated once before, I wish I could remember how. Maybe it was a rigorous debate.