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This post got banned from !memes@lemmy.world for reason “Troll Posting” which is Very Disrespectful in my opinion. 😕
I mean this meme with full respect and love to my fellow community members and I was proud of the discussion and support it was creating.
EDIT: POST RESTORED YAY. (Thank you to the mods it turned out to be a misunderstanding.)
Important clarification/FAQ
I am not calling to coddle or excuse the behavior of bigoted men in any way!
I am calling to be kind and understanding to young men (often ages 10-20) who are very manipulable and succeptible to the massive anti feminist propaganda machine. Hope this clarifies that very important distinction. :)
Very good comments that express key points:
- Detailed summary of the situation if you’re wondering what’s going on
- The rhetorical value of the bear hypothetical and what this means for you
- One example of why the long-term rhetorical value of the hypothetical is poor, in the context of intersectionality
- What does disenfranchisement mean in this context?
- The importance of not asking women to tone down their expressions of fear and frustration
- “But why can’t they just say it nicely?”
- The importance of participation in kindness toward young men, specifically outside the context of people speaking their experiences
I did end up checking it out, but I gotta be honest, it being specifically a men focussed place and the only thread about the bear meme was how it effected women and not a discussion on how demoralizing it is/the effects of having to grow up your entire life with constant and consistent messaging that men have it better, and men are more violent, and men need to stop being bigoted/toxic, was really offputting.
I was raised in a feminist household and I have had plenty of strong and political women in my life, so I understand the statistics and the politics and the nuance, and yet even so that messaging has had a negative impact on me. So a mens space that isnt taking the opportunity to talk about that aspect of this situation is really disappointing.
I get that! Maybe make a post? Read the rules and stuff beforehand obviously but I’ll be there to support you :)
Yeah, maybe when I’ve had some time to cooldown and formulate the right words