• GBU_28
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      2 months ago

      Soon to be “our”. And not just in America, unfortunately.

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        2 months ago

        I don’t think you know what the world is like outside your gun nut bubble.

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          I don’t think you know what the world is like outside your gun nut bubble.

          Then you should probably be a little less judgy about what folks think they need to do to defend themselves within that bubble.

          Since you aren’t from the US, you may not be aware of Project 2025, but “some christofascist militia has me on my knees in front of a ditch” is a plausible eventual outcome for many over here if Trump gets in again.

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            Then you should probably be a little less judgy about what folks think they need to do to defend themselves within that bubble.

            no, he shouldn’t be. folks in gun nut bubble don’t need to defend themselves, they are just gun nuts, that’s the whole point of the argument 😆

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              I’m not even a gun owner buddy, but I’m not going to pretend the world is going to stay safe for everyone who isn’t (or can’t pretend to be) a white cishet christian if Project 2025 comes to pass.

              Edit: They are already ramping it up more, as if that were possible. They want to be ready to hit the ground running on Day 1 of Trump’s second term. https://www.advocate.com/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-rnc

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                Yeah a ton of people will lose their rights with project 2025, but how does having a gun help you fix that? Are you talking about like civilization declining into groups of people killing each other in the streets?

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                  Have you not followed the context of this discussion that led to this seeming disagreement we’re now having? Please note, I am not the commenter in the picture below. I was explaining why someone would have this worry. If you think the worry is invalid or overblown, OK, I don’t feel the need to argue with you about it.

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                    I’m saying I dont see how guns will help you there either unless you plan to form your own militia I suppose.

                    Besides this is all based on unfounded fears, which I prefer not to base my decisions on. Seat belts make sense. Most examples of gun ownership do not.

                    While owning a gun might make someone feel safer, it absolutely increases the danger for those living in and around the house. I’m sure some situations mitigate that problem, and we could likely license those people to have guns.

                    Suburban family of four does not need a rifle and handgun for each family member. Its far more likely to hurt someone in the family than to be used in a defensive manner. Besides the fact that guns are stolen ALL THE TIME and then used in violent crimes.

                    The way we treat guns does not respect the power they provide and the multitude of uses they have, good or bad. People also have some false belief that making guns harder to get and more expensive would only affect legal owners. When a gun on the street goes for 300$ now its far easier to buy than if that same gun was worth 1000$ or 10000$, and contrary to popular belief people with severe mental disorders are not the target customer for a street dealer selling a gun.

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          Gun nut? I’m not replying regarding guns, but the rise of right wing nationalism

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        I’m with you until the last part, I’ve tasted it, and I wouldn’t wish it on DJT himself. I understand the emotion, but there’s a better way homie

      • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.world
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        Hey, I appreciate you at least. At my old job they had a big office in Monterrey, and they were some of the most hard working teams I had the pleasure to work with. I absolutely lost my shit if anyone treated them any differently and I hated how the company ran that division. Working with those teams is the only thing I miss.

        The fact that they always had to get permission for any time off from the team leads, were scrutinized for every cent, and often not even given the tools they needed for their job, all in the name of “saving” money, was absolute bullshit. There really were some ridiculous double standards. We never denied time off and purchased what you needed. We knew how shitty the system was and did what we could.

        So, one shitty American to an awesome Mexican, thank you. For every cook, every maid, field slave, factory worker, engineer, installer, and human from your country that just wants to exist somewhere safe, feed their family, and have a roof over your head, thank you.

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        2 months ago

        do you plan to resolve any of your problems, real or perceived, with ar15?