Interesting. You shared a cross sectional data analysis that criticizes other studies for not accounting for enough confounding variables, even though the Adventist study I shared already accounts for more variables.
It’s basically a rebuttal of your adventist study. Which is a terrible study and a example of how bad science can mislead people. It’s pushed by religious zealots. And even within that community they aren’t vegan at all. Cheese and eggs have most of the important animal nutrition. So if poor nutrition causes a short life adding in milk, cheese, and eggs is going to greatly reduce that. Anyways, other’s have pointed out that smoking has been controlled for. When ever someone mentions smoking they always brush over like Japan, South Korea, the decreased rate of smoking in America with decreased beef consumption and now life getting shorter. There is no correlation between high meat consumption and lower life expectancy when you control for junk food. It almost always results in a higher life expectancy. But more importantly
THERE IS NO OBSERVATIONAL STUDY that shows meat to reduce life expectancy. Not one.
All of these studies are done with highly inaccurate questionnaires. Where they can just ignore whole sets of data they don’t agree with. Which is why it’s better just to look at total meat consumption per capita than believe highly politicized garbage meta analysis that don’t prove anything and at best suggest more study.
But I really wonder. Vegans practical worship the way Indians eat. If meat consumption contributed to heart disease at all, why don’t Indians live to 70?
that is the closest mankind has ever gotten to a vegetarian society. They still eat chicken, milk, occasional goat but overall their meat consumption is some of the lowest.
Interesting. You shared a cross sectional data analysis that criticizes other studies for not accounting for enough confounding variables, even though the Adventist study I shared already accounts for more variables.
The high life expectancy rates for Hong Kong have been attributed to much lower rates of smoking, and higher per capita wealth.
Again, I appreciate the concern, but I stopped eating meat 14 years ago and I’m doing great!
It’s basically a rebuttal of your adventist study. Which is a terrible study and a example of how bad science can mislead people. It’s pushed by religious zealots. And even within that community they aren’t vegan at all. Cheese and eggs have most of the important animal nutrition. So if poor nutrition causes a short life adding in milk, cheese, and eggs is going to greatly reduce that. Anyways, other’s have pointed out that smoking has been controlled for. When ever someone mentions smoking they always brush over like Japan, South Korea, the decreased rate of smoking in America with decreased beef consumption and now life getting shorter. There is no correlation between high meat consumption and lower life expectancy when you control for junk food. It almost always results in a higher life expectancy. But more importantly
THERE IS NO OBSERVATIONAL STUDY that shows meat to reduce life expectancy. Not one.
All of these studies are done with highly inaccurate questionnaires. Where they can just ignore whole sets of data they don’t agree with. Which is why it’s better just to look at total meat consumption per capita than believe highly politicized garbage meta analysis that don’t prove anything and at best suggest more study.
But I really wonder. Vegans practical worship the way Indians eat. If meat consumption contributed to heart disease at all, why don’t Indians live to 70?
that is the closest mankind has ever gotten to a vegetarian society. They still eat chicken, milk, occasional goat but overall their meat consumption is some of the lowest.
they eat whole foods too.