More than 20 Ohio counties rejected Issue 1 on Tuesday and most of them were suburban and exurban counties that voted for Donald Trump in 2020.

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    11 months ago

    I was discussing this earlier. I’m a pro-choice republican. I won’t vote republican until they change their stance on abortion. I’m rarely a single issue voter but this is one issue I won’t back down on. I personally don’t know any republicans who don’t want some compromise on the the issue.

    There is a major disconnect between the voters and the politicians on this topic.

    • bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      11 months ago

      So when they said they’d outlaw abortions for the last 50 years, you still voted for them? 🤡

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        11 months ago

        Did you see democrats voting to protect abortion? No. It was all posturing until roe was overturned.

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          Tell me how many years in the past 20 that democrats had enough votes in the house, and the Senate, and control of the white house. How much time did they actually have to pass laws with republican obstructionism? How would they pass laws that protect abortion when bad actors like Manchin and Sinema constantly interfere. What I did see was republicans systematically attack the privacy provisions from Roe up until their final success with the Dobbs decision. And I know you voted for them even though they made it abundantly clear what their intentions were. Constantly voting against your own interests under the guise of not being as cruel and heartless as the clowns you support.

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          Yes, and I do fault them for that, but only to an extent. Wedge issues are a valuable commodity, aren’t they? Republicans certainly kept banging on that pro-life drum (which supposedly no one really wanted and y’all were just yelling about to keep the rubes on board?) The flip side of that was that you all looked like extremists. (But Roe is dead and buried, so I guess you’re doing Nazis now. We all sort of hope that’s cosplay as well, but… look at Roe. Someone might start to suspect you’re serious.)

          I guess there is such a thing as a slippery slope.

          In any case, “you had 50 years to make a law about it” seems like a silly argument if the right in question is protected by the constitution. Every SC nominee in recent memory has testified to that specific question under oath.

          And what sort of law are we talking about here? It’s far easier to restrict a right than it is to affirm it. It honestly makes no sense practically or politically. The only way to attack that right was through a challenge to Roe, so that was how things went down. They had to overturn Roe. Took half a century. I guess that’s something.

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            11 months ago

            I’m not sure what you think I was wrong about? Your article has nothing to do with congress. Congress has to enact a federal law. SCOTUS said the same thing. Everyone knew this was coming since roe was enacted. Yet nobody put in a federal law to perfect abortion.

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                11 months ago

                You don’t appear to understand the issue well.

                Nobody moved a goal post. The only way to protect abortion is through congress

                What overturning roe did is push the issue back to the states. Each state can make their own laws around abortion.

                We need a federal law or amendment to fix the issue.

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      11 months ago

      I’m a pro-choice republican.

      Otherwise known as a Democrat. There’s no disconnect between voters and politicians. Republican voters want “no abortion” until they get it. Politicians are delivering that.

      Republican voters do not really vote based on policies. They vote based on values. You may have said to yourself “This person seems like a decent choice”. " I like where they’re coming from." None of those are policies.