• Alien Nathan Edward
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    10 months ago

    Idk if they even have the death penalty in the UK but in the US it’s significantly more expensive to put someone to death than it is to imprison them for life. Also about a third of death penalty cases end up overturned on appeal. Which is a pleasant way of saying we get it wrong a lot. I feel like that’s important to remember, because you’re not just deciding what to do in this specific case. You’re designing rules, not exceptions.

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      10 months ago

      Capital punishment is prohibited in all circumstances in the UK, that includes times of war. It’s the same across almost all of Europe.

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      10 months ago

      I totally agree for the US. I guess since I don’t live there I trust the UK judicial system to be more sorted, but that is probably naive.

      Even though I am against it where I live, there are still those cases where there is undeniable proof and the crimes are heinous enough to invoke the primal side of the brain. The logical side of my brain knows that it is a bad idea to give power to the state to kill people.

      I just can’t imagine how the family would feel in these kind of situations, and sometimes I think the justice given to them can be underwhelming. It’s complicated and I find it hard to make a concrete decision to say that the death penalty is absolutely never warranted.

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      10 months ago

      US it’s significantly more expensive to put someone to death than it is to imprison them for life

      because of the appeals process. maybe if you guys had an actual functioning justice system over there that didnt convict and sentence people to death because of their skin colour things would be different, but as it stands, THAT is why its more expensive.

      No-one hear is arguing over the actual guilt of this lady. A death sentence isnt going to be accidently put on the wrong person. Will she appeal? probably. She can do the same for life in prison too. Its gonna cost a lot no matter what.

      In the end she is a worthless, valueless monster the world would be better for if she wasnt consuming oxygen and resources, although pretty sure the death penalty isnt a thing in the UK anyway so the point is moot

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        10 months ago

        What are you getting mad at him for? He’s agreeing with you

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            10 months ago

            maybe if you guys had an actual functioning justice system over there that didnt convict and sentence people to death because of their skin colour things would be different,

            Sounds big mad to me

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              Eg, he’s right about it being racist AF over here. Shit, we onced sentenced 3 kids to death because a child had been murdered and those 3 kids lived near the place where it happened, listened to dark music and made everyone feel uncomfortable. Google “west Memphis 3”, we didn’t actually end up murdering any of them but it wasn’t for lack of trying.

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                10 months ago

                It’s his overall objective in the thread that’s the problem. His problem is also not my problem. I’m perfectly content to laugh while he seethes.

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              10 months ago

              not mad, pointing out facts champ. sorry, American justice system is 3rd level inconpetant, if that fact makes you mad, think about why