A University of South Carolina student was shot and killed as he apparently tried to enter the wrong home on his off-campus street early on Saturday, police said.
Nicholas Anthony Donofrio, 20, of Connecticut, was dead by the time police responded to reports of a home burglary and shooting, according to a Columbia Police Department news release. Officers found his body on a front porch around 2 a.m., and Donofrio had a gunshot wound to his upper body, the release said.
If you look here, you’ll see the total crime rate is higher in Europe than America.
https://www.hoplofobia.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2017-Crime-Statistics-Comparison-between-EU-and-US.pdf
For some reason people think Europe has less crime which isn’t true. I’m much more likely to be assaulted in Europe than I am in America.
We have murder problem but it’s very isolated.
Europe has a lot of petty theft issues. Always have had.
In this thread, we were specifically talking about gun violence, which is through the roof in the US and almost non-existent in Europe. It’s also the most dangerous type of crime, which often turns otherwise non-violent, petty crimes deadly.
And for some reason, conservatives don’t want to look at the tools being used for gun violence. The guns.
Most of the people killing each other are not conservatives. As a conservative, I don’t want to restrict my constitutional rights. I would prefer we focused on solving the crime issue. In the 90’s, Biden pushed for longer prison sentences, more police, and more enforcement of the laws, which saw our murder rate decline. We need to do that again.
As a progressive, I’d prefer to look at the tools that enable the gun violence: The guns. It’s just very clear that the US has an enormous problem with gun violence compared to other parts of the developed world. The thing that stands out is obviously easy access to weapons.
Fresh example: Jacksonville, where a rightwing nut went ballistic with an AR-15 in a racist rampage. Weapons bought legally, since he seemed like “one of the good guys with a gun.”
Sorry, but I’m not willing to sacrifice school kids and my fellow Americans’ lives to defend some “right” invented in a completely different time with very different types of weapons available.
To change it, you would need an amendment and that would be hard to pass.
Children dying is a rare thing, most gun violence is in the inner city.
Most murders are committed with handguns and not with rifles. In the 90’s they banned assault weapons and the DOJ report said it did nothing to lower crime
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/factchecking-bidens-claim-that-assault-weapons-ban-worked/
I’m all for an amendment.
I just find it unreal that conservatives defend their guns over the lives of children. Especially after what we’ve seen in Uvalde and Sandy Hook and Columbine, etc. Zero change. Unreal.
It is a false argument. Firearms rarely kill children.
The left wants to defund the police, as such, that means I need to defend myself from crime.
You can’t have it both ways. You either need to have more police or allow the citizens to defend themselves. It’s why I moved out of the blue city to a red city. I would rather have a strong police force to defend my from crime rather than have to carry a firearm to defend myself.
People rarely fuck your wife when you’re at work. What number is acceptable for you then?
Since she’s not my wife, I’m comfortable insisting that a few hundred is nothing to get upset about. It’s only a tiny fraction of the overall population.
So, not reaction to Uvalde, Columbine, Sandy Hook? Nothing? Seems on par.
You seem completely blind to anything outside the US.
Create happy populations and you don’t need any of it. Europeans don’t have guns and they don’t have the violent police forces you see in the US. Yet, they are the happiest populations on earth year after year. Highly productive, highly educated.
Great equality. Create opportunity. Get rid of the desperation.
As the DOJ pointed out, a ban didn’t solve anything. It didn’t help the problem.
Parading dead children isn’t going to impress me when the facts say it wouldn’t have changed anything.
You want to ban something that is proven not to help and claim victory.
Firearms rarely kill children?
Hundreds of children have died after being shot at school since Sandy Hook alone. Hundreds. That was only 13 years ago.
In that same period, do you know how many children died after being shot at school in Europe? It’s a number between 0 and 0.
Zero ?
There was one last year in Germany.
Getting easier every day. Do you think the kids are going to forget you sold them out to the gun lobby? Do you think they won’t vote?
The pro-gun crowd has proven themselves completely incapable of addressing the danger to society their hobby creates. When they no longer have the power they need to stop progress, they’re going to be shown exactly the level of compassion they showed victims of gun violence and traumatised children.
If they want to get all “cold dead hands” about it, they can go right ahead and die in a hail of bullets after firing on police. As far as I’m concerned, that’s just the consequences finally meeting the cause.
Maybe you don’t understand how hard it would be.
You’d need 2/3 of the states to pass an amendments. It’s not happening anytime soon.
Tell that to your slaves.
Did you even make it to the end of that paper? It openly states that the discrepancies could be due to flawed data or that fact that widespread firearm ownership has resulted in criminals that will straight up execute you if things get out of hand.
Congratulations, you traded “having your phone stolen” for “having your child die screaming in agony on their classroom floor because a legal gun owner shot them in the spine”.
I’m fine with the compromise. All studies point out possible flaws. Nothing new.
Of course you are, you think it proves you right. You’d be fine with it being written in crayon.
The rest of us are justifiably more skeptical about a paper that doesn’t say what you imply it says and mispells “firearms” in the very first paragraph.