Despite ACLU win in lower court, an appeal by the state means transgender kids and their families will feel the devastating effects of the ban.

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      That’s the point. Transgender care for underage people consists of meds to hold off body changes (puberty) until they are old enough.

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        Are there any permanent effects on the body from this that will follow them into adulthood even if they stop taking them?

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      Denying children healthcare is child abuse. That is what you are supporting.

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      Oh hey, it’s you, spouting more transphobic bullshit again. Remember the other day when you were upset, thinking everybody was mad at you for no reason?

      This is the reason.

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        Oh i knew the reason. Yall are leftists and think consent doesn’t matter when its something you like.

        Also, yall ignore science when uts convient. Theres already a guy claiming puberty blockers doesn’t block puberty.

        Newsflash: they block puberty. Things like sterilization and lack of bone density.

        Heres a peer reveiwed study on puberty blockers and bone density. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9150228/

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          That’s really cool.

          That you can read, that is. Sorry, I should’ve clarified. It’s cool that you can read. I was starting to have doubts, after you failed to identify what part of My Shadow Is Purple equates to self-harm. You know, a children’s book that you seem to have been incapable of reading? That one. The one where I linked you to a video of the book being read aloud (just in case you couldn’t read), and you still didn’t provide an answer to. Remember that? I remember.

          Anyway. Now here’s a peer-reviewed study on the efficacy of gender-affirming healthcare:

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9341318/

          Transgender patients experience disproportionate disparities in mental health, physical health, homelessness, and violence. These disparities are not inevitable, however. Gender-affirming care has consistently been shown to improve quality of life, improve health outcomes, and reduce rates of SI and SAs.

          Note from me, “SI” refers to “Suicidal Ideation” and “SA” refers to “Suicide Attempt”. Figured I should explain this, since I know with 100% certainty that you won’t bother to read the paper, just like you didn’t read My Shadow Is Purple.

          Or, here’s another study specifically about puberty blockers:

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/

          After adjustment for demographic variables and level of family support for gender identity, those who received treatment with pubertal suppression, when compared with those who wanted pubertal suppression but did not receive it, had lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation (adjusted odds ratio = 0.3; 95% confidence interval = 0.2–0.6).

          Fuck off with your bad faith arguments, bud. Seriously. You’re just straight-up objectively wrong in your beliefs, which are founded on misinformation and hate, and I will prove it to you every. single. fucking. time. if you allow me the opportunity.

          Since you didn’t read My Shadow Is Purple, here’s a quote from a book you’re probably more familiar with, judging from your deep-rooted hate:

          Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

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            Heres what we do for suicidal patients: we give them therapy and medication. So why is blocking puberty an exception? Because leftism is a cult?

            And my beliefs come from peer reviewed studies. Sorry you’re so anti-science, maybe you should rejoin the anti-vaxxers?

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              Heres what we do for suicidal patients: we give them therapy and medication.

              What the flying fuck do you think puberty blockers are, you absolute necrosed gonad?

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                The wrong medication, they block puberty. You want depression pills, SSRIs and the like.

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                  Puberty blocking is a form of therapy. Puberty blockers are a form of medication.

                  Gender dysphoria isn’t depression (look up “comorbidity”; it’s a big word, so I’ll give you some time), you wouldn’t treat it with antidepressants. That’s like taking an antacid for a headache.

                  “My beliefs come from peer reviewed studies” is such obvious horse shit. You didn’t read the studies I linked you to, clearly.

                  This conversation is done until you can prove to me that you’ve read and understood the studies provided to you. Since, y’know, that’s what your beliefs are supposedly based on. You can prove me wrong whenever.

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                    Suicide comes from depression (or severe psychosis and a few others, but that’s getting on a tangent)

                    You don’t treat SI with changing the body. You fix the mind (or at least the hormones)

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      But Hall emphasized that these forms of care are—contrary to misinformation spread by the state’s lawyers—not only scientifically proven to be safe and effective, they are also essentially identical to forms of medical care offered to cisgender (non-trans) young people. For example, puberty blockers, which temporarily halt the advance of adolescence, are commonly prescribed to young cisgender girls undergoing “precocious” puberty. These same drugs also allow trans kids to make more deliberate choices about their bodies as they age into adulthood.

      The reason that this law exists is to hurt children, not protect them.

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      All the people downvoting you because you’re right.

      If kids can’t consent to things before x age depending on the topic then why is it that fresh out of the womb people want them to be trans if they want to? Would you let your toddler smoke if they wanted to ? It would probably seem like a poor decision to let them partake in that activity. What about sky diving ? If they wanted to skydive do you just take them skydiving or do you tell them “not until your older “. Same should apply here.

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        Just another take, smoking and sky diving aren’t things that you are. These are things you do. Statistics shows us these things can be dangerous. What of statistics for dangers of surgery, something the individual may do. Sure, you bet. Medicine needs? Could be.

        What of objective metrics for the danger(s) of transitioning children under age of consent? Some think this is a bad thing and some think it’s a good thing. Is it overall good or bad for the individual? This is an opportunity to use the tool of the scientific method to reveal truths to all. It should be studied, the whole thing. All aspects. The more this is studied, we’ll eventually uncover some indisputable facts. We’ll no longer have to rely on what individuals (with lots of biases) think. We’ll actually know. I think the community would like everyone to know, also.

        We may find there is good and there is bad. We can assign the ratios of good and bad, to levels of risk. Which then can be used as helpful information for the individual, caretakers, and their healthcare professionals in making decisions.