Assuming Trump is legally removed from running for president under the 14th Ammendment, who even can fill his shoes?

All other potential candidates from the GOP Primary Debate are terrible at economics, optics or both. No one seems really electable, so what now? Switching to blue? Not voting at all? Vote third party? Retry Jan6?

From what I see, voting red is just not a solid choice if Trump is gone.

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    It isn’t bad faith. You made a trolling comment.

    The democrats are a party based on racism and classes. Everyone is a victim and they need the government to fix their problems.

    I don’t agree with that. I believe people can be successful without a nanny state. I support small government which is a gripe of mine with the current Republican Party.

    I voted for the democrats twice and nothing came from it. I won’t make that mistake again.

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      You made a trolling comment.

      If by trolling you mean “critical”, then sure, but otherwise no.

      The democrats are a party based on racism and classes. Everyone is a victim and they need the government to fix their problems.

      Not really. The democrats are a corporate owned, vaguely centrist to right wing party. As for your nanny state worries, those just honestly don’t make sense.

      I voted for the democrats twice and nothing came from it

      Our political system is intentionally designed to only change slowly. So expecting massive change from 2 single votes is quite frankly ridiculous. And again, democrats are corporate owned, so even when they get in they largely don’t do anything useful.

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        Just saying joke isn’t critical.

        I wouldn’t say they’re centrist. They want to dismantle the police, spend more without figuring out how to pay for anything. They push misogynistic policies. The democrats are just a mess.

        Both parties are owned by corporations. It’s why I want more parties. I’m not a fan of AOC but she has my respect for telling Amazon to screw off. I feel the same about de Santis and Disney.

        Companies should not be running the show.

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          They want to dismantle the police, spend more without figuring out how to pay for anything. They push misogynistic policies.

          None of that is true.

          The democrats are just a mess.

          They absolutely are, but not for the ressons you’re listing. That’s why I hate voting for them but unfortunately do because there are no better choices thanks to our dumb two party system.

          Companies should not be running the show.

          I agree. And thats why I think giving politicians money in any form should be criminalized, we should switch to STAR voting, elections should be run from shared fund pools, etc.

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            That is all true.

            Democrats are pushing for defunding the police.

            https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/defund-the-police-still-haunts-democrats/

            Spending.

            https://budget.house.gov/press-release/cbo-reports-14-trillion-deficit-in-first-nine-months-of-fy2023-under-bidens-watch

            Democrats are the ones pushing to allow trans women into female safe spaces such as sports and locker rooms. While I support trans woman, I don’t support taking away from women to benefit trans women.

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              https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/defund-the-police-still-haunts-democrats/

              A minority of democrats support this as its commonly understood, and so it’s not true that democrats support this.

              https://budget.house.gov/press-release/cbo-reports-14-trillion-deficit-in-first-nine-months-of-fy2023-under-bidens-watch

              This isn’t a source from the democrats and therefore doesn’t support your conclusion that democrats have no spending plan.

              I don’t support taking away from women to benefit trans women.

              You don’t need to take away from women for trans people to have rights.

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                They changed tune after they say people didn’t want that and crime was increasing. Yet still some are pushing it such as

                It shows a trillion dollar deficit increase. Thats spending without a plan.

                When trans rights infringe on the rights of women. Something has to give. That is the issue. Jk Rowling has written some wonderful articles on the topic. She changed my views since they’re coming from a feminist view.

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                  They changed tune after they say people didn’t want that and crime was increasing. Yet still some are pushing it such as

                  Doesn’t matter because most democrats never supported it as you understand it.

                  It shows a trillion dollar deficit increase. Thats spending without a plan.

                  Which is tame in comparison to how much it grows under republicans. Under democrats the deficit usually goes down, under republicans it usually explodes. That’s because democrats are generally better at economics. Republicans just give tax breaks to the rich and borrow the remainder.

                  When trans rights infringe on the rights of women.

                  They don’t though.

                  Jk Rowling has written some wonderful articles on the topic

                  I’m going to continue to avoid her bigoted ass like the plague.

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                    I understand it well. Cut funding to the police to use it for other community resources. An unproven model that is risky. If they really wanted to show it works, raise taxes and fund both.

                    At least in the past twenty years excluding Covid. It’s never grown faster. No democrats are not better with economics. They spend without a plan.

                    As a high income earner, I’ve only received one drastic tax increase and that was under Trump. He raise taxes on high income earners and nobody noticed unless you were a high income earner. It was sneaky as hell.

                    They do. Women should have the right to compete against other females in sports and shouldn’t be subjected to undressing in front of trans women. This is a topic many females have spoken out about and people ignore. It’s something the democrats want to push and honestly the republicans want to go to far the other direction. We need a compromise that doesn’t harm females.

                    I don’t find her bigoted at all. Maybe it’s your misogyny creeping through but I typically don’t bash a woman for speaking on issues regarding women. That’s misogyny. She’s entitled to her opinion as a feminist.