I’m just curious what y’all think about that aspect of your identity. What’s it based on? What are its limits?

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    Guy who calls himself conservative here.

    If a progressive is someone who wants progress things, a conservative is one who says “Is that really how we want to progress?” . With a gas pedal, you need a brake pedal so to speak.

    Not all progress is good progress. Look at communism, and what progress towards that goal lead to. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    A perfect example is guns. You look at the newspapers, and see all these masd shootings. Of course we should disarm the people. But you look at the stats and see just how rare mass shootings are, you look at what often happens to disarmed populations, and how disarment doesn’t actually work, suddenly disarment looks like bad progress.

    Not all progress is good, a lot is bad, even with good intentions.

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      I’m a moderate conservative. I’m not against social programs but they should be time bound, cost effective and work to remove someone from the social program.

      I also want to see a balanced budget.

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        and work to remove someone from the social program.

        What happens to people who are chronically ill, unable to work or heal to a point where they can get off of social programs?

        What about the old/retired?

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          Old/retired is social security/401k/pension.

          Chronically ill is social security.

          Social security is an insurance program.

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            Old/retired is social security/401k/pension.

            Not everybody has payed enough into social security to get any use out of it, and not everybody has a 401k/pension. And that especially goes for pensions.

            Chronically ill is social security.

            Unless I’m missing something, people who are chronically ill are typically on medicaid, not social security. But my question was really about the “heal to a point where they can get off social programs part”.

            There are many people who will never, for the rest of their life, or for a very long part of their life have no ability to heal or become able bodied. Are you suggesting they get booted off these programs anyways?

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              Social security disability.

              The people who can’t work get social security.