• TranscendentalEmpire
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    The given context is you flattening 200 years and three Russian states into wanting a warm water port.

    Yes, they occupy roughly the same region and thus have the same material constraints. Just because a revolution took place, doesn’t mean the incoming government is going to be less reliant on access to the black sea.

    referring to all Russians as wanting that thing and recognizing at the very least someone with extreme nationalism brain

    You honestly think that I believe the people yearn for warm water ports? That seems to be a bit of a stretch, I think you’re being purposely obtuse.

    It’s okay to be wrong here

    Lol, how am I being wrong about my original claim? You have a semantic dispute with the use of the word Russian, despite the given context, and my further explanation. You are just fighting a strawman you erected yourself.

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      I’m not talking about the veracity of your original claim, whatever that is.

      The thing you’re wrong about is that it’s obvious what you’re talking about when you aren’t careful with your nationalist language and present the modern history of Russia in the Black Sea as a book entitled “the quest for a warm water port”.

      If it was there wouldn’t be a bunch of people giving your posts the hairy eyeball in written form.

      If it was obvious you’d have a bunch of people apologizing for doubting you instead of thoroughly questioning you to figure out what the heck you mean.

      And if that questioning was gonna turn up a hapless lib who stumbled into right wing language without knowing, you’d be recognizing it instead of digging your heels in!

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        I’m not talking about the veracity of your original claim

        Well it’s good to know we agree that you’re arguing against a strawman.

        obvious what you’re talking about when you aren’t careful with your nationalist language and present the modern history of Russia in the Black Sea

        Nationalist language is when …you utilize the name of a state, sure.

        If it was there wouldn’t be a bunch of people giving your posts the hairy eyeball in written form.

        A bunch of people meaning…two? In reality it seems you didn’t really have much to argue with about my original claim, so you hyper focused on a pedantic misinterpretation that I all ready clarified.

        you’d be recognizing it instead of digging your heels in!

        Lol, you do realize that you’re the only one who’s focused on nationalism, right? You steered the question towards it, even when I stated that was an incorrect interpretation, explaining the context, and how it would be impossible for me to think that the Russian people had control over a pure monarchy.

        I already said that it was silly to hold the beliefs you accuse me of, and have explained my reasoning. You still are completely disinterested in any discord that doesn’t involve nationalism. And have admitted that your entire rebuttal has nothing to do with my original claims.

        Leftist like you are a cancer to the cause. Instead of open discord and mutual aid, you offer nothing but gait keeping and dogmatic theory. All you do is attempt to force some aspect of theory you poorly understood to any conversation that allows you to be a contrarian. Ego boosting isn’t praxis ya dweeb.