Well after 20 weeks. Well after five months. Is it still a “clump of cells” at 20 weeks?
These two women would likely be in prison anywhere in Europe which tends to have shorter term limits on abortion.
Also lol at ending the article by decrying the fact Nebraska now imposes a 12 week ban. The same as that famous anti-woman regressive Gilead-esque shithole Germany.
If it is inside of a woman’s body and reliant on her to be alive, then it has nothing to do with anyone else. It’s a parasite she can decide to excise from her body.
You can’t force someone to give blood or an organ to another person, why are you allowed to force a woman to keep something inside her body?
These two women would have been able to access abortion services much earlier in the pregnancy, if they were in Europe instead of Oklahoma. This case is the kind of thing that restricting access to legal abortion early in pregnancies causes. This is the fault of the Oklahoma abortion bans
Wrong on two counts there, hoss. No one owes you a baby. You get zero say in reproduction. That’s how being a male in the world works. Don’t like it, too bad.
It is way more than a clump of cells at 20 weeks. 20 weeks is when you do the huge ultrasound to make sure everything is developing how it should. My wife and I did a 20 week ultrasound for our first kid back in July and it looks just like a baby; you can see fingers, toes, facial structure, etc. The baby is kicking and rolling around through the whole thing.
It’s funny you get downvoted because you are right. Anyone who has a kid or knows how babies develop would never want abortions allowed at 20 weeks except in certain circumstances. Europe has a 12 week ban for a reason. Europe is only progressive here when it fits their narrative.
Most people here are edgy teenagers, people who have never been pregnant, or people who don’t even know the whole process of how babies are made and grow. I’m very pro abortion but if you need till 20 weeks to decide to get an abortion then that’s on you. 6 week limits are bullshit because you probably don’t even know you’re pregnant but by 12 weeks you’ll know and have ample time if you decide to want one.
This shiti article gets reposted to rile up people but people actually read it and see the facts, they realize that click bait title is hardly supported by the facts.
Didn’t they also dispose of the remains in some unsavory way?
The abortion debate in the US is psychotic. On one end you have prolifers that want to ban Plan B and some would definitely like to ban contraceptives too.
On the other end you have rabid prochoicers who support the idea that abortion should be an elective procedure with (almost) no limits.
Whereas, in most of Europe, we seem to have figured it out. Set a sensible limit somewhere around 12-14 weeks, allow a lot exceptions when the mother’s health in threatened or for cases of rape and incest, and that’s it. It works.
But, something else is at play here, which is that many extreme feminists don’t want any kind of equality but power. The demand to be able to terminate a pregnancy with no limits is a demand to be solely in control of human reproduction.
Oh fuck you, stop lying. The vast majority of Americans agree on reasonable abortion restrictions.
“When asked about the legality of abortion at different stages of pregnancy, about two-thirds of Americans say it should be legal in the first trimester (69%), while support drops to 37% for the second trimester and 22% for the third. Majorities oppose abortion being legal in the second (55%) and third (70%) trimesters.”
I wasn’t talking about the majority of Americans but about the prochoice activists like the ones here who have informed us that a 20 week old fetus is a parasite that can be killed at any time, solely at the woman’s discretion.
Whereas, in most of Europe, we seem to have figured it out. Set a sensible limit somewhere around 12-14 weeks, allow a lot exceptions when the mother’s health in threatened or for cases of rape and incest, and that’s it. It works.
Like hell it does. Women in Europe do not have bodily autonomy. You don’t need a special justification to decide what happens to your own body.
LOL. Your weird attempt at internet fighting is a word salad. It’s genuinely pleasing when unpleasant people make fools of themselves. So please give that one another try.
When I said try again, I meant try another attack, not do the same one again. It didn’t get any better the second time around. I’m game for round three if you want though. Like I said, comments like this from people like you really do brighten my day.
Chomping at the bit for a both sides false equivalency? Interesting that you’d find it when the basic rights of a whole class of people are on the line.
Murdering a nearly developed unborn child is not a basic right. I fully support abortion up to 14 weeks. That’s more than enough time to decide if you want to abort or carry the pregnancy to term. The idea that you should be able to “abort” up the point of birth is psychotic and evil.
Look, at the end of the day, you chose to have sex, you chose to take on the possible consequences of having sex. In today’s modern world you have contraceptives, you have the Plan B pill. And you have sensible limit abortion of up to 14 weeks.
All of these are just convenient “get out of jail free cards” but it’s really up to a woman to not let just anyone rawdog her pussy.
I’m sorry but society can’t be organised solely around the idea of allowing every woman to avoid the consequences of her actions every time. Past a certain point (around 15 weeks) the fetus is no longer a clump of cells but a living being that does and should have have rights.
Along with every else woke idiot, you are retarded. Where did I say I want to make contraception illegal? How does making contraception illegal make sense given that I support abortions up to 14 weeks?
You are retarded. When someone disagrees with you even 1% you run a whole mental script in your head: oh they disagree with X therefore they also want to Y and Z and Q therefore they’re a Nazi.
You are retarded. You don’t have any reading comprehension.
You are retarded. You’re incapable of grasping nuance.
Well after 20 weeks. Well after five months. Is it still a “clump of cells” at 20 weeks?
These two women would likely be in prison anywhere in Europe which tends to have shorter term limits on abortion.
Also lol at ending the article by decrying the fact Nebraska now imposes a 12 week ban. The same as that famous anti-woman regressive Gilead-esque shithole Germany.
If it is inside of a woman’s body and reliant on her to be alive, then it has nothing to do with anyone else. It’s a parasite she can decide to excise from her body.
You can’t force someone to give blood or an organ to another person, why are you allowed to force a woman to keep something inside her body?
Clump of cells or not, it’s still the mother’s choice whether to keep hosting it.
These two women would have been able to access abortion services much earlier in the pregnancy, if they were in Europe instead of Oklahoma. This case is the kind of thing that restricting access to legal abortion early in pregnancies causes. This is the fault of the Oklahoma abortion bans
It literally doesn’t matter, women have the right to end a pregnancy no matter what part of the process they’re at.
Women do not owe you babies. Women’s rights are more important than fetuses’ rights.
So, you’re in contractions, you’re dilated. But you say you know what I don’t want this baby abort it.
This sounds fine to you?
Yes. Especially after everything the right wing has done. Give them all the dead babies they feared purposefully to spite them.
Women do not owe the world babies and you are not entitled to reproduce.
Psychotic sadism. Par for the course for feminists and wokesters.
Women do owe the world babies. And men can’t be pushed out of decisions regarding procreation.
Wrong on two counts there, hoss. No one owes you a baby. You get zero say in reproduction. That’s how being a male in the world works. Don’t like it, too bad.
How wonderful and equitable. The woman is solely in charge in whether or not she’ll kill my baby moments from birth.
You demonic whore. Your time is coming to an end cunt. Normal people will not tolerate this degenerate bullshit much longer.
The future belongs to us Christians and we’re not at all sure we want you in it.
It’s what you deserve for subjugating millions of women and imposing a police state in the south to force women to make your babies for you.
Aww, stop. You flatter me. 😈
I am 100% screenshotting this. This is the biggest alt-right lolcow I’ve seen in a long time.
Fuck the fetus.
Demonic.
It is way more than a clump of cells at 20 weeks. 20 weeks is when you do the huge ultrasound to make sure everything is developing how it should. My wife and I did a 20 week ultrasound for our first kid back in July and it looks just like a baby; you can see fingers, toes, facial structure, etc. The baby is kicking and rolling around through the whole thing.
It’s funny you get downvoted because you are right. Anyone who has a kid or knows how babies develop would never want abortions allowed at 20 weeks except in certain circumstances. Europe has a 12 week ban for a reason. Europe is only progressive here when it fits their narrative.
Nope sorry. Read the other comments here. It’s a parasite that the woman can chose to excise at any point up until birth.
This is progressive and humane and in no way monstrous and psychotic.
Most people here are edgy teenagers, people who have never been pregnant, or people who don’t even know the whole process of how babies are made and grow. I’m very pro abortion but if you need till 20 weeks to decide to get an abortion then that’s on you. 6 week limits are bullshit because you probably don’t even know you’re pregnant but by 12 weeks you’ll know and have ample time if you decide to want one.
I know you’re talking about the actual cellular development into a human being, rather than what happens before that, but this made me chuckle.
This shiti article gets reposted to rile up people but people actually read it and see the facts, they realize that click bait title is hardly supported by the facts.
Didn’t they also dispose of the remains in some unsavory way?
The abortion debate in the US is psychotic. On one end you have prolifers that want to ban Plan B and some would definitely like to ban contraceptives too.
On the other end you have rabid prochoicers who support the idea that abortion should be an elective procedure with (almost) no limits.
Whereas, in most of Europe, we seem to have figured it out. Set a sensible limit somewhere around 12-14 weeks, allow a lot exceptions when the mother’s health in threatened or for cases of rape and incest, and that’s it. It works.
But, something else is at play here, which is that many extreme feminists don’t want any kind of equality but power. The demand to be able to terminate a pregnancy with no limits is a demand to be solely in control of human reproduction.
Oh fuck you, stop lying. The vast majority of Americans agree on reasonable abortion restrictions.
“When asked about the legality of abortion at different stages of pregnancy, about two-thirds of Americans say it should be legal in the first trimester (69%), while support drops to 37% for the second trimester and 22% for the third. Majorities oppose abortion being legal in the second (55%) and third (70%) trimesters.”
https://news.gallup.com/poll/321143/americans-stand-abortion.aspx
No but but but both sides are equally bad, and what about them eXtReMe FeMiNiStS??!!??!!¿¿
I wasn’t talking about the majority of Americans but about the prochoice activists like the ones here who have informed us that a 20 week old fetus is a parasite that can be killed at any time, solely at the woman’s discretion.
Like hell it does. Women in Europe do not have bodily autonomy. You don’t need a special justification to decide what happens to your own body.
Histrionic with characteristics of paranoia and psychosis.
LOL. Your weird attempt at internet fighting is a word salad. It’s genuinely pleasing when unpleasant people make fools of themselves. So please give that one another try.
What kind of discussion can I have with someone who thinks fetuses are parasites and should be able to be killed anytime before birth?
You are psychotic and you need to check yourself into a mental hospital where you’ll get the help you need.
When I said try again, I meant try another attack, not do the same one again. It didn’t get any better the second time around. I’m game for round three if you want though. Like I said, comments like this from people like you really do brighten my day.
Chomping at the bit for a both sides false equivalency? Interesting that you’d find it when the basic rights of a whole class of people are on the line.
Murdering a nearly developed unborn child is not a basic right. I fully support abortion up to 14 weeks. That’s more than enough time to decide if you want to abort or carry the pregnancy to term. The idea that you should be able to “abort” up the point of birth is psychotic and evil.
So you’re using bible-thumping fetus fanatic language and fallacies to defend your “moderate” position.
Just admit it, you want to ban abortion
I didn’t even know I was pregnant until 12 weeks or more.
Stop being fat.
Wtaf? I was and am skinny, and that’s a fat-phobic and misogynistic comment
Itt: ignorant people do not* know there’s no baby bump until 3+ months. Gross 🤮
Look, at the end of the day, you chose to have sex, you chose to take on the possible consequences of having sex. In today’s modern world you have contraceptives, you have the Plan B pill. And you have sensible limit abortion of up to 14 weeks.
All of these are just convenient “get out of jail free cards” but it’s really up to a woman to not let just anyone rawdog her pussy.
I’m sorry but society can’t be organised solely around the idea of allowing every woman to avoid the consequences of her actions every time. Past a certain point (around 15 weeks) the fetus is no longer a clump of cells but a living being that does and should have have rights.
We agree that’s pretty sort of you.
The point is: I was married, chose to deliver and still realize how hateful this is.
ETA and I was on contraceptives when I got pregnant. Which people of your ilk would also like to make illegal.
You are retarded.
Along with every else woke idiot, you are retarded. Where did I say I want to make contraception illegal? How does making contraception illegal make sense given that I support abortions up to 14 weeks?
You are retarded. When someone disagrees with you even 1% you run a whole mental script in your head: oh they disagree with X therefore they also want to Y and Z and Q therefore they’re a Nazi.
You are retarded. You don’t have any reading comprehension.
You are retarded. You’re incapable of grasping nuance.
You are retarded.