I look at people trying to turn “centrist” into a pejorative and see George Bush announcing that, “You’re with us, or you’re with the terrorists.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qdvm6h8WKg
Nah. “Enlightened centrism” is specifically about people insisting both sides are equally wrong, no matter what either side actually says. As if the sane and moral position is always some even blend of what everyone is saying right now, and the extremes are automatically equal and irrelevant. Like the status quo they live in must be the best of all possible worlds.
It’s not a loyalty test. It’s condemning cocksure flakes who contribute nothing to the conversation because they have no opinion.
Who was talking about “enlightened centrism”? The original comment was just a snide remark about “centrism”, in general.
I don’t even know who these, “enlightened centrists” are supposed to be. I don’t know anyone who claims that identity and I don’t know anyone who advocates for an even blend of what everyone else is saying.
As near as I can tell, both the term “enlightened centrism” and the idea that there are people who want an even blend of polices are straw men.
Such a retarded and bad faith take every time I see it. Centrists don’t hardline every issue down the middle. The entire point of being centrist literally means you don’t hardline at all to either side. If you ask them how they feel about this extremist theoretical dichotomy, ofc they’re going to agree with you on “yeah they should”.
This doesn’t mean they also agree on immigration, financial policies, abortion or take your pick. To subscribe yourself as a democrat or liberal is to say you agree with and endorse that entire line of thought, and any solution to problems they come up with. Centrists would rather take what they feel optimal to the situation and ascribe their perceived pragmatism. Your reductionist propaganda bullshit is just as bad as Bush stating you’re either with us or the terrorists, as the other said.
This comic says nothing about any of those things. The characters aren’t from any of those groups. There is no reference to genocide; ritual sacrifice typically entails within-group violence.
The famous quote, which the comic is presumably referring to, isn’t about race or genocide either.
“democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time” -Winston Churchill
not an expert but [citation needed] on the “within-group violence” statement. From what I remember they quite often sacrificed captured slaves from other nations and ethnicities.
I look at people trying to turn “centrist” into a pejorative and see George Bush announcing that, “You’re with us, or you’re with the terrorists.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qdvm6h8WKg
Nah. “Enlightened centrism” is specifically about people insisting both sides are equally wrong, no matter what either side actually says. As if the sane and moral position is always some even blend of what everyone is saying right now, and the extremes are automatically equal and irrelevant. Like the status quo they live in must be the best of all possible worlds.
It’s not a loyalty test. It’s condemning cocksure flakes who contribute nothing to the conversation because they have no opinion.
Who was talking about “enlightened centrism”? The original comment was just a snide remark about “centrism”, in general.
I don’t even know who these, “enlightened centrists” are supposed to be. I don’t know anyone who claims that identity and I don’t know anyone who advocates for an even blend of what everyone else is saying.
As near as I can tell, both the term “enlightened centrism” and the idea that there are people who want an even blend of polices are straw men.
There was a whole subreddit of examples, if you want to go back to hellsite number two.
Remind me again, what is the center between “gay|black|Jewish people have equal human rights” and “a little bit of genocide is needed”?
Such a retarded and bad faith take every time I see it. Centrists don’t hardline every issue down the middle. The entire point of being centrist literally means you don’t hardline at all to either side. If you ask them how they feel about this extremist theoretical dichotomy, ofc they’re going to agree with you on “yeah they should”.
This doesn’t mean they also agree on immigration, financial policies, abortion or take your pick. To subscribe yourself as a democrat or liberal is to say you agree with and endorse that entire line of thought, and any solution to problems they come up with. Centrists would rather take what they feel optimal to the situation and ascribe their perceived pragmatism. Your reductionist propaganda bullshit is just as bad as Bush stating you’re either with us or the terrorists, as the other said.
This comic says nothing about any of those things. The characters aren’t from any of those groups. There is no reference to genocide; ritual sacrifice typically entails within-group violence.
The famous quote, which the comic is presumably referring to, isn’t about race or genocide either.
“democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time” -Winston Churchill
not an expert but [citation needed] on the “within-group violence” statement. From what I remember they quite often sacrificed captured slaves from other nations and ethnicities.
I don’t have any numbers on it but it’s often both. Sacrifice, as a religious practice, has a lot of variation.
But I’m not aware of any serious claims that ritual sacrifice has anything to do with genocide.
The center is always to the right but centrists are too pussy to say it.