Like they agree with me in terms of being “team Palestine”, and understands my analogies of the initial Hamas attack being like if slaves in the 1800s had tried to stage an uprising etc but still “you can’t tell me terrorism is good because it’s never good”, even when I explain to them how non-violent protest actually working (like when schools taught us about MLK JR/civil rights etc) is propaganda…fun times.

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    I can understand that take, I just feel his writings could be used by many people to affect national changes in society and political structure. The end result could be whatever the people want it to be.

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      9 months ago

      Can you give me an example of when his theories were used to affect real change without the support of the State Department?

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        The Arab Spring saw the fall of US propped regimes in the Middle East. The Serbian uprising in 2000.

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            Lol, my understanding was that the US wasn’t happy about much of what occurred, but I accept I could be wrong.

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              Vincent Bevins’, who wrote The Jakarta Method, just published a book called If We Burn that covers the Arab Spring and really goes into detail on Egypt. The premise of the book is that the past decade has seen more protest than at anytime in history so why did they often have the opposite of the intended effect?

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          Given that nobody in the Middle East saw it as an ‘Arab Spring’ or decoupling from U.S. interests and that political repression is generally worse there since the so-called Arab Spring, I think you need to revaluate some things.

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          And less then two years later the region was put back under US propped regimes, you know why?

          Because sustained organization trumps unguided spontaneity every single time