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    8 months ago

    What? They used force to take what control they have

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      8 months ago

      Again. Why? What event or events caused a group of Palestinians to decide that forming a violent reactionary group was their best option? What prevents the other 2 million people in Gaza from rooting them out and/or condemning them?

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        Multiple layers there.

        1: religious extremism

        2: they believe they should control Israel.

        3: they can’t do anything against Iran backed strongmen, they are just civilians

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          1. Settlers stole Palestinian land because someone in Europe said it was cool.
          2. Settlers build a wall and force 2.2 million people into one of the most densely packed ghettos in human history. A ghetto that the settlers can at any time cut off the water, electricity, internet and food supply. All of which the settlers do regularly.
          3. Settlers regularly harass, abuse, rape, murder, gas and bomb their prisoners. Men, women, children, Hamas, civilian. Indiscriminately and whenever they feel like.

          If you have to choose whether to watch your children starve to death slowly or die now on your feat defending your people’s right to live, I hope to God you have the balls to stand up.

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            8 months ago

            This has nothing to do with who is the defacto government of Gaza, which Hamas is.

            It has to do with the why, which I’m not discussing further. Cya!

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              Why the defacto government exists? Besides the Western Islamaphobia you’re regurgitating? Yes that is what we’re discussing.
              Are you 12? Does every event exist in a vacuum for you?

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                I linked wiki which has a mountain of sources you dumb fuck, scroll up, I even quoted it.

                It’s not islamphobia or even opinionated in any way to reference a source. Wiki isn’t end all be all but it’s a very fair starting point

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                  You can’t even consider that this is a group of proletariat responding to the abusive and desperate material conditions forced upon them by a foreign, imperialist, genocidal, fascist ethno state that is backed by Western armies and liberal politicians. All you can come up with is “Muslim bad. Iran is Muslim, also bad.” It turns out, when you invade a land that has naturally formed a cohesive society around a central religion, generally the people who fight back are members of the religion. It has nothing to do with their desire for survival. It’s just the easiest thing to organize around.
                  It doesn’t matter whether they’re the defacto government, elected government or a extremist Islamic miltia. They are a last resort and violent response to a violent oppressor.
                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapiens:_A_Brief_History_of_Humankind

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                    I never said anyone was better, I only stated a fact about who is governing gaza.

                    You are acting very emotionally and I recommend you not reply, but if you do, please tell me who is in power in gaza.

                    Don’t reply if that’s not your first sentence.

                    Because I don’t care about ANY supporting detail. None of the “why”.

                    Please learn to reply appropriately because you are conflating.my very tightly scoped fact into a whole big thing. You are out of context and inappropriate.