and no one irl even has the decency to agree with me because it’s so fucking drilled into the culture that these fucking BuNsInNesSes have a Right to do this because it’s a bSUsniEss. like oh yeah they have an office building so they definitely get to analyze my piss because they say they want to. sick fucking freaks.

preaching to the choir a bit on lemmy (or i would hope so at least) but still

  • GBU_28
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    Pre employment and post accident seems completely fine.

    • “Reasonable suspicion” if someone seems altered.

    I’ll agree randoms are dumb and invasive.

    • Chetzemoka@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      9 months ago

      Post accident is fine because the question there is “were you actively impaired while working” which is a valid concern. What is pre-employment testing supposed to show that’s relevant to the vast majority of jobs though? “Sometimes this person uses recreational drugs.” Ok, and what? Are they coming to work impaired? If not, then outside of the medical field and airline pilots, who cares?

      Why on earth should a corporation be allowed to require a privacy violating urine test as a condition for employment for a desk job? And even for safety critical jobs like medical or pilots, a pre-employment urine test isn’t going to catch abuse of the one drug that is the biggest red flag in the entire collection: alcohol.

      • GBU_28
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Many hyper critical jobs have drug screens every time you enter the job site

          • GBU_28
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            9 months ago

            Why not? Can’t be sober and clean for day 1 after getting an offer?

            • Chetzemoka@startrek.website
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              9 months ago

              Marijuana stays in people’s systems for weeks. I don’t think that never smoking pot should be a requirement of employment.

              I don’t smoke pot. I care about people’s liberty. And you’re being a prick.