• mathemachristian
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    7 months ago

    Liberals have come down hard in uncritical support of the nazi militias in Ukraine and on the Israeli side of the Palestinian struggle for freedom. Both are the pro-war stances.

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      Liberals have been against the Russian invasion from day one, and Russia is driving that war.

      Most people have been ignorant of the Israel and Palestine conflicts until recently, and most western media glorifies the IDF because it’s a stabilizing democratic force in a notoriously anti-west region, but liberals are all upset with the current Palestinian genocide.

      There are liberal pro-Palestinian anti-hamas civil rights movement right now.

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        Liberals have been against the Russian invasion from day one, and Russia is driving that war.

        The Ukrainian Nazi militias (Combat 18, Azov and so on) have been terrorizing the Russians and Roma and Jews for years prior with funding from the Ukrainian ministry of interior. Which is why the Russians in Donbas rebelled. Russia then came to their aid.

        the IDF [is] a stabilizing democratic force in a notoriously anti-west region

        No, the IOF is an army enforcing Apartheid and furthering Palestinian genocide.

        Youre the exact kind of lib the meme is talking about.

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          I’m against both current wars and for the current civil rights movements, so you’re 0 for 3 there.

          By your logic, you’re the lib the meme is talking about.

          Your Russian propaganda is b*******, russia invaded and tried to annex the rest of Ukraine the same way that they annexed Crimea because Putin is a cowardly, greedy dictator.

          And you’re just agreeing with me about the IDF, so thanks, I guess.

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            Right the history of that region began when Russia attacked. Ukrainians and Russians were living peacefully together when all of a sudden using nothing but sheer evil Dark Lord Putin manifested a whole separatist movement and army just to have an excuse for his invasion.

            Edit: also I’m saying the IOF is a genocidal army enforcing apartheid, you’re saying its a stabilizing Democratic force, how are we agreeing here??

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              You’re close about Putin using a baseless pretense to invade and steal further territory from Ukraine, wrong about the Russian-Ukrainian peacetime relationship, and you haven’t mentioned that putin also disarmed Ukraine in a nuclear anti-arms treaty to ensure ukraine couldn’t fight back before putin broke the treaty, annexed crimea and then invaded a second time when nobody stood up to him the first time.

              But hey, you got the names correct. Mostly.

              Two, You’re agreeing with me about the IDF because I condemned the Palestinian genocide by the IDF. You, then, ostensibly condemned the Palestinian genocide.

              This part might be difficult for you to follow, but if you condemn the same thing I already condemned, you are agreeing with me.

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                Man I shouldn’t make fun of you sorry. Your response is the kind of shit I would have said a couple weeks ago.

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                  You should definitely try making fun of me, at least you’re learning something while spouting inaccuracies.

                  Please, flail more.

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                    7 months ago

                    Spooky. Its like finding an old journal and cringing at the shit you used to write. Dontvreally have the time and energy r8ght now to go further with this though, if someone else wants to go ahead.

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        7 months ago

        The ones who hold political power, mostly. If you’d like a list the just take every dem congressperson and remove Rashida Talib and there it is.

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      Lol the one person that gets the post is downvoted.

      Hey libs, we’re talking about you wanting to send hundreds of billions of dollars to literal Nazis that we helped move into power by overthrowing Ukraine’s government.