I’ve been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?
I’ve been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?
The ‘two sides’ are not the only sides when it comes to politics.
For everyone outside America they look the same, conservative and violently imperialist.
I think its fair to say most of hexbear would welcome a major shift away from the two parties to more left options or even go as far as wanting a violent revolution to eradicate those currently in power.
Your argument that you have to vote for one side to keep the other out benefits both the GOP and the democrats. I’m also from a divided place but for here people vote to keep the other religion/ethnicity out of power, its not good for the politics and it’s not good for the people as it often causes governmental collapse which we’ve seen a few times recently and we’ve also seen it with the US.
It absolutely does not benefit the GOP to vote for democrats. Fox News is GLOATING over leftists abandoning the dems. Hexbear and company is handing the party of white supremacy and trans genocide a massive win wrapped in gold foil.
It’s a mathematical fact that with FPTP voting, you only have two choices. Not philosophical, not social, it’s an* indisputable unchangeable mathematical fact*. If 66% of the country votes progressive split evenly between 2 people, and 34% votes white supremacist, the white supremacist wins.
All of us want a shift away from the two-party sytem, but the only way forward is ranked-choice voting. And if the democrats are in power, there’s a small chance of getting ranked-choice voting. If the GOP is in power, there’s a 0% chance of ranked-choice voting.
There’s a million legitimate reasons to criticize dems and in an ideal situation, in a few years or decades most of them will be on trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity. But whether it comes to protecting trans lives or erasing the 2-party system, dems are the only way forward.
As for violent revolution, imho it’s a cope LARP, same as QAnon’s cope LARP.
Both sides convincing their respective voter bases that they have to vote for them to keep the other party out and that there is no other viable option absolutely does benefit the two current parties equally.
I’m not to sure about American politics whether coalitions are allowed but FPTP does not have to mean just two parties swapping office every 4 years. A strong leftist 3rd party could act as king makers and force whatever party they go into coalition with to take more leftist stances.
We’ve had this happen in the UK to greater and lesser effectiveness over the years. It only improves democracy as it gives voters more options that potentially align with their values.
In fact despite the UK being FPTP there are at least 10 parties that get seats in parliament.
My brother/sister/sibling are you suggesting the UK as your example of leftist/progressive success?
If the two parties of the US are an illusion of choice that benefits right wing goals, the 10 parties of the UK are an even worse illusion of choice that’s even further right wing.
No but the UK does prove that there can be more than two parties in a FPTP system and even the smallest parties can go into coalition and influence policy.
I keep trying to tell you that the centre right democrats also benefit just as much as the right wing. Convincing the general electorate that they have to keep voting for the two parties and anything else is a wasted vote keeps both of them in power.
If there are more than two parties with large differences in their policies and they gets seats in parliament/congress or whatever the American equivalent is then it’s the opposite of an illusion of choice. Those 10+ parties all get seats in parliament and can vote with or against the government, a lot of them are more leftist than the current government.
What’s the current state of trans rights in the UK?
Or while we’re at it, what’s the current stance of the UK government on Israel?
Shit but marginally better than the US on both counts. But the point was not about what the government is doing but the effect of having more than two parties is.
Shit but marginally better than the US on both counts. But the point was not about what the government is doing but what the effect of having more than two parties is.
The effect of having more than two parties is Brexit plus still being a conservative slumland whose PM has taken a publically transphobic stance, with “unqualified support” for Israel.
Not voting is like extremely high risk, low reward, maybe no reward.
Like, let’s risk giving over control of America to a party whose stated intent is to opress and genocide trans people, minorities, women and non-white people, and maybe we’ll get a multi-party system with a milquetoast transphobe Zionist for a president instead.
If you think brexit was a consequence of having more than 2 parties and not politicians/media lying to the populace and enacting a major change on the back of a slim majority in a nonbinding referendum to make a fuck ton of money for Tory party donors, then you have very little idea bout British politics.