• NeuromancerM
    23·
    7 months ago

    Eugene which is south of me is banning new gas stoves. To me it myopic to focus on gas stoves.

    I love hydroelectric but it’s does cause other problems. Salmon stocks have declined because of the dams. Salmon ladders don’t really work. I’d love to use hydro but we can destroy our environment doing it.

    Everyone is skittish about nuclear but it’s the best source for clean energy. It’s very safe if it’s done correctly. Chernobyl was a product of communism.

    • PizzaMan
      42·
      7 months ago

      Chernobyl was a product of communism

      No, Chernobyl was a result of bad engineering. And bad engineering can happen regardless of your chosen economic system.

    • karobeccary@lemmy.world
      23·
      7 months ago

      My mother once banned me from my Nintendo. It was harsh, but I don’t think it’s fair to say that all mothers are focussing too much on banning me from Nintendos. I realise you are no fan of the democrats, but let’s not allow anecdotes to take the place of facts and stats.

      https://pitlochry-scotland.co.uk/local-walks/pitlochry-dam-and-fish-ladder-walk.php

      Here is an article about a salmon ladder in scotland that has been in operation for 71 years! And only one of many such successful salmon ladders across the world! Wonderful stuff, and the fish are doing great. Maybe the private enterprises are doing a poor job of constructing the ladders? Hopefully the government will step in to regulate better ladders in the USA, as it is clearly falling behind in its commitment to the wellbeing of the salmon.

      And finally, what about three mile island? fukushima? I am well aware of the shortcomings of the RBMK reactors of the generation used in the Chornobyl NPP, however nuclear meltdowns do not seem to directly correlate to how much communism is fed into the reactor. The problem was a cheaply designed reactor core and the use of graphite on the cooling rods, in essence it was penny pinching and a poor understanding of the technology, which can happen anywhere.

      edit: so many typos and some grammar, and adding a link I forgot :D

      • NeuromancerM
        33·
        7 months ago

        Three Mile Island is a sign of success. There was very little damage outside of the reactor. It could have been much worse and we have 40 years of reactor experience behind us. We have successfully run hundreds of reactors in our Naval Fleet with no major issues. To me that is validation nuclear is the way to go.

        https://e360.yale.edu/features/blocked_migration_fish_ladders_on_us_dams_are_not_effective

        Here is some Oregon history for you, Oregon use to have many canneries in Astoria and other parts of Oregon. The Salmon were plentiful and it provided a fish for all the canneries.

        Between overfishing and the dams, there are now zero canneries in Oregon. Bumble Bee Food started in Oregon canning Salmon.

        • karobeccary@lemmy.world
          42·
          7 months ago

          Do all successful reactors melt down? Sorry that wasn’t fair, but I think you can agree that a melt down can hardly be considered a success just because it didn’t fail as badly as Chornobyl :D

          Nuclear Power is generally safe, on this we agree, I just think you are letting your feelings about the scary soviets affect your opinions about what was a genuinely sad event which should not be made light of.

          Overfishing does not sound like salmon ladders failing to me, it sounds like a very obvious failure of capitalism and the greed it inevitably engenders. Have a great night <3