Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis asked whether former President Trump was running to get back at his poltical enemies or ensure a brighter future for Americans.

I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016. I didn’t vote.

In 2020 I voted for Trump because knew Biden would be bad. He has done better than I expected but the inflation is killing me and the focus on the wrong thing isn’t helping.

Early on I was a De Santis fan but my interest has waned as he has taken hard stances on things that need compromise.

  • crashfrog
    62·
    11 months ago

    Trump did as he was advised by faucci and his authority under the law.

    Oh, ok. So now you accept that his response was incompetent; it’s just not his fault, because the buck didn’t actually stop here in his Presidency.

    Hey, I mean, you worked for the Army - is it not your experience that a refusal to take responsibility goes hand in hand with rank incompetence? I’d be surprised if you disagreed. That’s certainly my experience in the Federal government. Good, effective leaders take responsibility. Rarely - never - are effective, competent leaders also the ones who blame underlings - even if it’s actually their fault.

    I have to say, this view of leadership and responsibility is perhaps the most conservative view I hold. Don’t you share it? I’d be shocked.

    He’s not very good.

    Sure. Past his prime and an expert in the wrong kinds of diseases. A President who wasn’t an incompetent loser wouldn’t have sidelined Nancy Messonnier, who actually was very good and an expert on respiratory infections particularly. Trump did that because he’s bad at administrating and managing people and can’t recognize talent, only flattery. Incompetent.

    • NeuromancerOPM
      23·
      11 months ago

      I just don’t see trump violating the law as a good solution. I’m not as partisan as you. I look at facts and make decisions from there.

      Now I do think Trump screwed up by brining in more people who had no clue like faucci into the mix. That didn’t help. My mind is foggy but I think it as Scott atlas. Ironically he did speak the cardiologist like but otherwise I’m not sure why he was there

      At some point he invited osterholm whom I am a big fan of but I don’t think he got heavily involved.

      I believe in holding leaders accountable. If Trump had violated the law as you suggested, I’d expect him to be held accountable. Luckily he didn’t.

      • crashfrog
        52·
        11 months ago

        I just don’t see trump violating the law as a good solution.

        He wouldn’t have had to - Obama and Biden didn’t, after all.

        All Trump had to do was not be incompetent. But the same incompetence with which he’s prosecuted his business affairs extended, inexorably, to his prosecution of his responsibilities in office. That simply can’t be denied - he’s an incompetent loser, a failed President.

        Now I do think Trump screwed up by brining in more people who had no clue like faucci into the mix.

        Sure. He screwed up because he’s a screwup. Always has been, and hasn’t changed now.

        At some point he invited osterholm whom I am a big fan of

        Hey, I don’t deny he got some good people in by accident. Occasionally people gave him good advice and he was apparently too disinterested in the subject to gainsay them. Scott Gottlieb was the best FDA Commissioner we’ve had in decades and it’s a shame he’d left before COVID.

        But two objectively-correct Federal appointments don’t redeem the Trump legacy of incompetence. How can they?