I don’t blame them. People can’t afford Bidenomics. I see people complaining all the time but elections have consequences.

I make a lot of money, so I am weathering it just fine. I am just not able to save as much as I would like.

As I said previously, I am not a fan of Trump but groceries were much cheaper under Trump. The cost of items was cheaper under Trump.

I can’t think of any way my life was worse under Trump.

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    Try what again? Yes, the thing that happened to the whole world also happened to me who dwells in it, any other insights you’d like to bring?

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      You are blaming Trump for the response the whole world took. Had you lived in France, you would have had the same thing.

      Had you lived in Sweden, you would not have been burdened with masks, but in the large majority of countries, your experience would have been the same.

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        You are blaming Trump for the response the whole world took.

        No, I’m blaming Trump for the response of the Federal government he was notionally the leader of. I say “notionally”, of course, since the official position of the White House during his administration was that Trump couldn’t and didn’t speak for his own administration, since he was drug-addled and quite literally asleep at the wheel most days (when he wasn’t taking 3 and 4 day weekends, of course.)

        You’re free to make excuses for this loser over and over again, but it’s simply a matter of civic fact that Trump, as President of the United States, was the head of both the FDA and the CDC and all the other agencies to boot.

        Had you lived in Sweden, you would not have been burdened with masks

        Yes, but I didn’t live in Sweden. I lived in the United States, the country Trump was supposedly the President of.

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          since he was drug-addled Trump doesn’t do drugs. He doesn’t drink or smoke. He is a tee totaler.

          I lived in the United States, the country Trump was supposedly the President of.

          Had you lived in a red state, you wouldn’t have had to wear a mask all the time. Maybe you need to talk to your governor or local health department since they made those decisions.

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            Had you lived in a red state, you wouldn’t have had to wear a mask all the time.

            I didn’t have to wear a mask at any time in my state, as far as I was aware. The travel “restrictions” were limited to “stay inside unless you’re going somewhere, or going nowhere”, which fully encompasses all of the reasons a person might leave their home so in practice was no restriction whatsoever. I had a C category public health exemption to travel restrictions for work, but then we all started working from home anyway and in any case there was literally zero attempts at enforcement of any travel restriction, anywhere in the US.

            It’s not the presence of the masks that I care about. It’s the presence of the disease. That’s where Trump completely, utterly failed. You should watch the documentary “Totally Under Control” if you’d like to know more about how. Scott Gottleib’s book on it is pretty good, too.

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              It’s the presence of the disease.

              Outside of Island nations, who do you think contained COVID? I am not aware of any country without a unique situation that contained COVID.

              Sure, China claims they contained it but they were welding people in their homes. That isn’t a country in which I would want to live.

              Sweden did exceptionally well but they once again are unique. They had Anders Tegnell who stuck to the plan, while you may not agree with it, their culture supported his plan.

              I think we would have had a better plan had they ditched Fauci earlier and got someone who wasn’t a compulsive liar.

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                Outside of Island nations, who do you think contained COVID? I am not aware of any country without a unique situation that contained COVID.

                We talked about this. You’re acting like COVID was somehow uniquely infectious, but Wuhan-1 actually had lower infectivity, by about half, than more serious illnesses that were prevented from becoming pandemics by a far more competent public health response.

                I know you want to act like Trump just got dealt a bad hand but it’s the opposite of that. He was dealt one potential epidemic - Biden’s been VP or P for at least five - and the virus he was dealt is less infectious than respiratory viruses generally are. It’s just that he was so incompetent that his actions turned a regional epidemic into a global pandemic. Did that happen everywhere in the world? Yes, simply as a function of how badly Trump performed, here.

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                  You’re acting like COVID was somehow uniquely infectious, but Wuhan-1 actually had lower infectivity, by about half, than more serious illnesses that were prevented from becoming pandemics by a far more competent public health response.

                  You’re the first person to claim that COVID was not unique.

                  Specifically which illness are you talking about? COVID was highly infectious when compared to most other disease. It had a much longer incubation period, which you don’t seem to realize makes a large difference in spreading a disease. It is why Ebola doesn’t have large outbreaks, but the flu does.

                  What seems to be true is you have TDS and you will try to force the narrative to blame Trump. I find that Partisan and hackery at best. At worst, it is a complete lack of morals and ethics.

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                    You’re the first person to claim that COVID was not unique.

                    It’s inherently not an unusual infection in terms of its epidemiological properties, is the point. Generally it’s a pretty big deal when a novel virus spreads in humans; nobody’s immune-competent to it (how can they be, it’s new) so we’re all in for a bad time.

                    But SARS-1 and MERS were novel, too.

                    Specifically which illness are you talking about?

                    SARS-1, MERS, H1N1 flu, H2N2 flu, H5N1 flu. Zika probably wasn’t ever going to be a pandemic because it’s arthropod-vectored and mosquitos can’t live everywhere. Ebola and Nipah virus aren’t airborne, generally, but they have particular etiologies that make them credible pandemic threats.

                    COVID was highly infectious when compared to most other disease.

                    Again, not in the original variant. Wuhan-1 has an R0 of only 1.5-1.8. That’s less than Ebola, that’s less than monkeypox, that’s less than SARS-1, and it’s an order of magnitude less than measles, mumps, and varicella.

                    Subsequent COVID-19 variants gained substantially higher R0 values as the virus adapted to what had become its primary reservoir (humans) but that’s not something that had to happen; that was the result of the utterly incompetent public health response led by Donald Trump.

                    What seems to be true is you have TDS and you will try to force the narrative to blame Trump.

                    Yes, conservatives often struggle to recollect who the actual President was between 2020-2021. Sounds like maybe you have some COVID-19-related brain damage and should get that checked out.