• PizzaMan
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    Don’t forget he’s a communist.

    No I’m not. Communism is largely a failure of an economic system, just as capitalism is. I’m not a capitalist or a communist, both systems are broken.

    Was can’t continue to absorb the cost is the illegal aliens. It’s breaking budgets.

    Immigrants actually, generally, are beneficial for economies. When they come here, they generally do so for the work, they pay taxes, and they make businesses. Anecdotally, I know if my Costa Rican extended family was able to immigrate, they would reopen their mom and pop store here.

    https://www.cbpp.org/research/immigrants-contribute-greatly-to-us-economy-despite-administrations-public-charge-rule

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      You are a communist. You preach wealth distribution and that the rich should create a welfare state for those who won’t work. Since you like the bible so much,

      “If anyone is not willing to work, don’t let him eat"

      Once again it isn’t my job to provide for others. They need to provide for themselves. The creation of a welfare state is not the American dream.

      Not sure why you are moving the goal post. I clearly said illegal immigration.

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        You are a communist

        I outright said that communism is a failure.

        I clearly said illegal immigration.

        I thought we were in agreement that the immigration process needs reformed to make it easier for people to legally immigrate? I was operating under that assumption.

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          and capitalism is a great success. Our standard of living is amazing in this country. Sweden is another great example of capitalism working.

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            and capitalism is a great success

            No it isn’t. Both systems are failures.

            Sweden is another great example of capitalism working.

            So you would be ok with a Swedish version of capitalism? Including a generous welfare state?

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              No, capitalism is a success. Our poorest people live better than most people in the world.

              So you would be ok with a Swedish version of capitalism? Including a generous welfare state?

              Sure, why not? It would never work here because we do not have the culture of the Swedish. We would be bankrupt in a few years and civil war would happen.

              Sweden works because of their culture. We do not have a monoculture in this country. We have too many lazy people who would just try to milk the system as we do now.

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                No, capitalism is a success. Our poorest people live better than most people in the world.

                You can’t just look at the parts that are good and ignore the bad parts and claim its a success.

                We would be bankrupt in a few years and civil war would happen.

                “Capitalism works”

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                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/sweden-is-now-much-more-capitalist-than-us/ar-AA1ePzxC

                  Maybe you should learn about capitalism. You just suggested we be more like Sweden, which is even more capitalist than we are.

                  I do not see a bad side to capitalism. I have done very well under the system. Everyone I know who is reasonably intelligent and willing to work has done well. It is an easy system to be successful under.

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                    To start off, that is an atrocious article. The writer clearly has a lot of bias because they wrote a book called “In defense of capitalism”, and it basis its argument off of a survey from the heritage foundation. Your standards of evidence are at bedrock level.

                    You just suggested we be more like Sweden

                    Merely to point out how “capitalism always works”, even by your own standards is wrong.

                    I do not see a bad side to capitalism. I have done very well under the system. Everyone I know who is reasonably intelligent and willing to work has done well. It is an easy system to be successful under

                    I imagine you wouldn’t be too convinced if a CCP member told you that.