• NeuromancerOPM
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    8 months ago

    So you think Biden bares no responsibility for his actions ? Pandemic was managed by the states. The blue states did much worse. So you want to stick with it being mismanaged ? Our unemployment has been low for years.

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      8 months ago

      Well I suppose to a supply-sider, unemployment has been perceived as low. Indeed, up to 10% during Reagan, as a result of labor devaluation and deregulation to keep workers desperate and wages low, it’s seen as a good thing. I just happen to disagree.

      As for this claim that blue states did much worse, is there a source for that? And what does that mean, “did much worse”? I can’t find any info on that except a lot of data that shows there were many more COVID deaths in republican counties than democrat ones. I suspect you are handing out one of those famous “alternative facts” that don’t have any connection to reality.

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        8 months ago

        As for this claim that blue states did much worse, is there a source for that? And what does that mean, “did much worse”?

        And that is fair. The economic recovery was quicker in red states. I suspect red counties suffered due to less medical care, less competent care, and lower vaccination rates. You will see the gap in red vs blue goes on long before COVID. Rural areas tend to have fewer hospitals, fewer staff, and a plethora of other issues.

        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/people-in-republican-counties-have-higher-death-rates-than-those-in-democratic-counties/

        https://nypost.com/2022/07/05/red-states-recovered-faster-from-covid-pandemic-than-blue-states-report/

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            8 months ago

            That chart has floated around for years. Read the fine print. It’s meaningless. Social security counts as government spending. Military pay. Etc. of course Texas receives more with the ports, border, large military bases, etc. the red states tend to be better for retirement and that counts as government spending

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              8 months ago

              Read the fine print indeed. You didn’t read any of it. It’s not a chart that has floated around for years, the report is from March 2023. Don’t try to jive me about something you obviously haven’t even looked at. Specifically addressed:

              Coronavirus Preparedness and Response Supplemental Appropriations Act ($8 billion), the Families First Coronavirus Response Act ($22 billion), Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES) ($1,760 billion), Paycheck Protection Program and Health Care Enhancement Act ($483 billion). The Coronavirus Response and Relief Supplemental Appropriations Act (CRRSA)(991 billion), and the American Rescue Plan (ARP) (1,962 billion).

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                  8 months ago

                  So if you’re just joining us, wintermute believes Biden caused inflation, Trump handled the pandemic brilliantly and that most of the emergency pandemic relief funds disbursed by the federal government went to social security and military bases.

                  I on the other hand, don’t believe Biden is able to cause inflation, I feel the pandemic could have been better handled, and I am curious to see what Biden’s departure from supply side thinking will bring. I suspect that recovery from so many years of neoliberal policy will not be quick or easy, but I feel it is necessary unless one is resigned to the possibility of the USA breaking apart.

                  This has been a Bongo Stryker report. God bless you, and God bless America.