• Call me Lenny/Leni
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    9 months ago

    Wear a covid mask. Sounds simple, but the issue was everywhere. You could say it was history’s most destructive example of toxic masculinity, especially when the protests kicked off and people were (and still do) denying any damage had been occurring due to that.

    I made a big deal when it happened because I for one hate dress codes, yet dress codes were and still are somehow fine and something you’re not allowed to argue against, all the while something that was actually practical as well as small was like peoples’ kryptonite, so I remain in a lowkey boycott over dress codes if the business was apathetic to antiviral measures.

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      9 months ago

      Is that really an example of toxic masculinity? A LOT of Karens shrieked about having to wear them.

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        It was the reason for some guys, for sure. The same crowd who refuse to wear safety glasses under any circumstances were pretty anti-mask.

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          oh god, and the same people end up almost deaf by 40. i wear hearing protection to almost every public event.

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          Safety glasses actually work, the face rags were security blankets. And I’m not claiming N95s did nothing, i know they helped. literal cloth rags don’t stop fuck all, they can’t even stop dust, ask anyone ever tried that method for shoveling grain.

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              9 months ago

              Surgeons change them every 20 minutes, and it’s not to help them.

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                9 months ago

                Then why wear something, if it’s actually the opposite of help, especially during something crucial like surgery?

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        9 months ago

        For a lot of people it seemed that way. Seeing a protest of Canadian truck drivers who didn’t want to wear the “face diapers” made it seem like they were acting on an outright masculine honor culture. It’s something that softened my previous view that Canada was living under an unlucky streak of bad authority. Now I look at them and think “well no wonder”.

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              It’s something that softened my previous view that Canada was living under an unlucky streak of bad authority

              this part you got right the first time

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                  Either not calling an election in the last year, when it has became beyond obvious half the country wants Justin’s head in a guillotine, or not doing the same during ww2 when the PM was putting Japanese (but not Germans) in camps.

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              Seeing a protest of Canadian truck drivers who didn’t want to wear the “face diapers” made it seem like they were acting on an outright masculine honor culture.

              total strawman

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                I wasn’t saying they could all be generalized, I was only saying how it seemed and why it seemed how it seemed. There were some people that didn’t look like they were acting upon a masculine honor culture, but those who did flooded the spotlight and were the anti-authoritarian ones. Anti-authoritarianism has to be reasonable at least.

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                  Well, all the Sikhs that attended, they definitely represented a masculine honor culture, that’s true. Too bad the cameras aimed directly at white guys for some reason, and also avoided all the Anabaptists and treaty Natives. Media was fucking creepy. The pre rallies, I saw some of them, was in Calgary working and saw literal thousands of vehicles convoying while the radio said there was a few hundred. the QE2 is two lanes each way, it took me 20 miles to get past them while they crawled in the right lane bumper to bumper.

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                    9 months ago

                    I saw cameras aimed at all kinds of guys (and women). I distinguish the number of initial truckers from people who got dragged into it and that would fit the bigger number. Some of those people could be found (I can confirm) on the American side in New York and Vermont. Nevertheless, considering the actual things being protested against, it wasn’t the end of the world the protestors made it out to be.

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                  Anti-authoritarianism has to be reasonable at least

                  no…that’s…no