The former president has set sky-high expectations for his own performance in the first contest of the race for the Republican presidential nomination. He spent the day before the caucuses trying to ensure he meets them. His main GOP rivals all spent Sunday in Iowa as well, making last-minute appeals to Iowans open to hearing them.
At a rally in Indianola, Trump said his supporters could fight back against his political enemies, claiming that the four indictments he faces were driven by politics and renewing his false claims about the 2020 election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.
Many in the crowd wore white and gold caps identifying them as Trump caucus captains who will help round up support for him Monday night.
Democrats opened the door that can not be closed. They raided his placed and are trying to get him in jail for something we all know was not a issurrection, so yea he will go after all those idiots. And the next election Democrats will win and will go after republicans and so on. Going after politicar rivals, that is what democrats started and noone will stop
You’re clearly insane. Democrats are prosecuting crimes committed by a crime boss and his crime underlings. Trump is talking about going after people simply for being against him. It’s really significantly different but if you actually believe what you just said there’s no point discussing it because you’ll never be able to understand what’s actually happening here.
Yea yea yea, put it however you want to. Just like the bidens have a looooot of stuff they need to respond for, and the clintons, etc… Im not saying I agree with what is happening, Im just letting you kno what has happened and what will happen. The democrats are going after their primary rival and republicans will do the same as soon as they get in to power.
Lol “we all know it wasn’t an insurrection”. No the fuck we don’t. Any relational person can see that it was.
Trump words “protest peacefully” Democrats “he called for people to be killed and remove everynody from the Gov and he is bad so we wont allow him to be a candidet” lol
Okay, let’s break this down and tackle one thing at a time. What did the FBI raid trumps property for?
Good question. Haging clasified documents “THE SAME OTHER DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE” Like I said, they opened the door, now every time one is in power it will look at the other and use all the force to get them.
It will be a shit show
Who came for clinton? After not having papers but cpromising a “server”. People dobt understand how bad nad how much information is on a swrver compared to a couple of pages of paper
Can you point to concrete examples of the Democrats doing the same thing with classified paper documents? Let’s try to keep this as much as an apples to apples comparison as we can.
Classified information*
Between November 2022 and January 2023, approximately 25 to 30 classified government documents were discovered by President Joe Biden’s attorneys in his former office at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C., and in his personal residence in Wilmington, Delaware, dating to his time in the Senate and his vice presidency in the Obama administration.
Thise documents were in a private residence, so in theory… Nobody (meaning externals ti that residence) had access to them
Even worst was this:
During her tenure as United States Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton drew controversy by using a private email server for official public communications rather than using official State Department email accounts maintained on federal servers. After a years-long FBI investigation, it was determined that Clinton’s server did not contain any information or emails that were clearly marked classified.[1] Federal agencies did, however, retrospectively determine that 100 emails contained information that should have been deemed classified at the time they were sent, including 65 emails deemed “Secret” and 22 deemed “Top Secret”. An additional 2,093 emails were retroactively designated confidential by the State Department.
Servers were online, meaning anybody who knew how had access to them. We can asume its public record now
Like I said that happened and during Trump presidency nobody was accused or the presidency did not try to prohibit the candidet from running. That is not happening now.
Again, let’s keep it to an apples to apples comparison. Do you think there’s a difference between immediately self reporting discovered documents, versus ignoring requests for the return of classified documents to the national archives, receiving a subpoena for the documents, have video evidence of moving the subpoenaed documents AFTER they were told to lock up and preserve the documents, which then justified an FBI search?
Which case do you think is worse?
No, there is no difference.
I wish we could compare the server of Clinton but there is no “apple” to compare that.
All 3 acts consist of similar/same problems (if you are going to keep bringing the “apple” analogy every time there are small diference you can but there will never be exaclty the same so never “apples to apples”) All 3 acts took something clasified and put it in to personal property (trump and biden) or public (clinton).
Trump did no go over the other 2 oponents because of this, Biden did go after trump because of it.
The decuments are not the reason they wont let Trump be president, why are we even talking about it? Did Trump comit an insurrection or not, that is the question to answer. Some states (ran by democrats) think they did, other would disagree. Isurrection agains who? He was the president at the time, he gave power to Biden without violence, so… Did he?
“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”
We’re talking about the documents because you brought up a litany of misguided claims, and I wanted to go through each one of them individually, without any deflection.
So let me ask you again, when comparing the two cases of mishandling classified documents, you honestly do not see a difference between discovering forgotten documents, self reporting, and turning them in, versus being caught on tape moving files that you were instructed to preserve and further lock up in the same location? Your response will let me know how much effort to spend in this conversation. You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink, and I don’t intend to try.
I’ve already responded that question. Need me to respond it again? Again, Im not saying I agree with anything that has happened.
My point is, Democrats are going after their “main oponent” on the next elections trying to get him not to run (something that is undemocratic), dont be sorprice that when (and I say when) Trump wins he would look for those who were trying to get him and get them for stuff they have (everybody in politics has tails thei can be steped on, one of the reason Trump won the first time was he was not a polititian)
I do apriciate you trying to explain your point of view, I think that is the only thing we have left anymore. If people dont talk to eachother ideas wont be transmited. No need for insults even that obviously we dont agree on some things I think we can find comun ground on others (this is what I’ve been trying to do by bringing the misshandeling of info by both parties), would you agree that all 3 cases of misshandeling of information need reprecutions?