• PhlubbaDubba
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    I mean they literally did exactly that until Stalin ordered them to start fighting after Barbarossa, after which point they began coopting the resistance movement already started by immigrants, jews, and other social rejects who stalinists also cast out for being rootless cosmopolitans or subversive agents of bourgeois decadence.

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      This is a slap in the face of the communists who died fighting for France. You should be ashamed of yourself. You depiction of Resistance communists as perfid opportunists that appropriated the Resistance movement is despicable. It’s a well-known fact that there were multiple fractions in the Resistance movement, nobody ever claimed it was just communists.

      Yes, the PCF had shitty positions but it was controversial back then, even among communists. And even if it took them a while to do the right thing, they eventually did and risked and sacrificed their lives to fight fascism, unlike the vast majority of the rest of the population. So no, they didn’t sit on their asses, even though the PCF made strategic mistakes dictated by the USSR that benefitted Germany.

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        They literally cooperated with the occupation until Barbarossa because Stalin was angling to join the Axis.

        Had the Soviet Axis talks gone as Stalin planned, the French Communists would have readily and eagerly lined up to collaborate on Stalin’s orders, because they specifically didn’t do shit to resist until Stalin ordered it.

        This is also why I balk at dismissal of Social Democrats as being unworthy of being called leftist ever, that was a determination made by Stalin in the wake of Nordic socialist parties not bending the knee for him.

        Stalin formed a new internationale specifically to exclude them and anyone who also didn’t bend the knee, then meanwhile the same bastard orders non-cooperation with anti-fascist resistance because it’d harsh his street cred with the fascists.

        Man sold out europe for the hope of negotiating control Bulgaria and Turkey out of letting everyone west of his borders eat it and die horribly.

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          4 months ago

          If my grandma had wheels, she’d be a bike.

          Idgaf about what the party leaders thought or did. I’m talking about the boots on the ground. Who were commies, and died. In the north of France, there are commemorative plaques remembering their sacrifice, on the houses they used to live in.

          Your takes give Wikipedia-historian vibes. You get some facts right but fail to see the bigger picture. And you do so in a grossly inappropriate way.

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            You mean took credit from the immigrant communities who actually fought and then were backstabbed so the communists would be able to swoop in and steal all the credit.

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        Oh and, just what politics do you imagine the immigrant backbone had, smartass? Why do you think they emigrated in the first place?