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      Maybe there’d be more objective reporting if the IDF would stop killing journalists. In lieu of that, I’ve got no choice but to take potentially less objective sources at face value.

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        I’ve got no choice but to take potentially less objective sources at face value.

        That doesn’t logically follow at all.

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          Are you not trying to educate yourself as best as possible, given the information available?

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            Of course, but questionable or unsubstantiated reports don’t suddenly become 100% credible simply because they are the only information available.

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                The person I responded to literally said that they would take the report “at face value”, which means you accept it unquestioningly.

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                  You accepting it doesn’t imply that the source is credible; you just don’t have any alternative.

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          No? I think it’s fair to assume that the flow of information is unilateral for a reason, and it’s also fair to interpret evidence accordingly. One side is trying to completely control the narrative. That party needs to be treated with more scrutiny, and the party who is unable to properly produce evidence because of the other’s actions needs to be afforded more leeway. Why would it not be so?

          Think of it like a court. If one party didn’t respond to any requests for discovery, the other party would be designated as fact in those matters where disclosure wasn’t provided. This is to account for the information asymmetry.

          Also, I was being somewhat terse before, I didn’t mean to imply anyone should be beyond all question.

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      News is being suppressed because the US supports Israel… I have read that news elsewhere

      this video from the state department touches the subject a bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwCTPW7-Oco

      Also, we do know that most people killed in Gaza so far are plain civilians… lots of children and women.

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        From some outlets, certainly, however I’m talking about corroborating evidence from NGOs and humanitarian aid sources, which usually condemn confirmed attacks against civilians in Gaza. Here’s one such example, regarding the attacks on the aid trucks on Feb 29th.

        I see no such reports for this alleged attack, however.

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          It’s entirely unbiased to condition reporting on past, direct experiences with the IDF where the IDF went out of their way to kill your journalists.

          That’s not bias. That’s just journalism.

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      Al Jazeera is probably one of the only sources I’d trust on first hand reporting on Gaza.

      So many other “credible” sources blindly repeat Israeli propaganda or let them act as gatekeepers to what can be published.

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        They’re generally ok, but I wouldn’t take their reporting at face value when it comes to Palestine.

        In the same way that some sources unquestionably publish Israeli reports, Al Jazeera have done the same from the Hamas side (of which this report would appear to be one example).

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          Nah, I’d take them at face value at this point. They’ve proven to be right on like everything so far.

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      From what I can tell, Shreddie Biologist primarily uses the “World News” sublem on lemmy.ml to shitpost the most biased, least fact-based articles they can find. I think I’m gonna block them, see how it improves the sub.

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        I dunno, is this community generally like this? It’s quite odd how people are dunking on me for just pointing out basic media literacy.