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    11 months ago

    4 very large cores and 4 large cores

    Of course it will be faster if they replace the efficiency cores with high performance ones.

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      There’s a good chance Qualcomm will beat it on efficiency.

      This will probably still be among the most efficient SOC’s when it comes out. The new designs may have some improvements, and I’m guessing this is 3nm instead of 4 which was the best previously available.

      It’s cool that we have an alternative to Qualcomm for high performance on Android.

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      https://www.techadvisor.com/article/1935476/mediatek-dimensity-9300.html

      It should also be noted that Arm claims the X4 has 40% better power efficiency than the previous generation

      I doubt efficiency will be much of a problem for the Mediatek Dimensity 9300. This is a beast!

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        Even with higher efficiency than last year, could it match the efficiency of a small core when doing next to nothing while the phone is idle? Feel like they should’ve included at least a single small core for that purpose

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          Typical decent phones can run for 4-5 days on idle, so I don’t think that will be a problem.

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              Of course they have, the point is that Idle is not a huge problem, unless it’s important to you that your phone can idle for 5 days. This may probably be slightly less, but so what if it’s 4 days instead of 5?

              The real problem is how much daily use you get out of your phone, and in that regard, this new SOC will beat everything currently in existence.

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                Of course they have, the point is that Idle is not a huge problem, unless it’s important to you that your phone can idle for 5 days. This may probably be slightly less, but so what if it’s 4 days instead of 5?

                How do you arrive at 4 days vs. 5? Do you have power draw numbers in idle state for the different CPUs? I wasn’t able to find much, though the manual for the ARM low-power cores suggests a lot of optimizations that aren’t available on the bigger cores.

                The real problem is how much daily use you get out of your phone, and in that regard, this new SOC will beat everything currently in existence.

                Maybe for you, but not for everyone else.

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        Arm claims the X4 has 40% better power efficiency than the previous generation.

        So it will be more efficient than anything from previous generations.

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          Definitely interested to see how this does in the real world.

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    This is a huge step up from the Dimensity 9200 series, which only had 1 Cortex-X3 core. The remaining cores are improved too, with the smaller Cortex-A510 completely gone, so it’s 4 Cortex-X4 and 4 Cortex-A720, up from 1 Cortex X3 + 3 Cortex A715 +4 A510.

    The clock is not really that big an improvement, as the 9200+ had the Cortex-X3 running at 3.35 GHz. So that’s actually reduced a little bit for the Cortex-X4 at 3.25 GHz on the 9300, but of course 4 instead of 1 will make it way faster, and any IPC improvement will help too.

    This is very exciting news, it’s very impressive how far Mediatek has come, from being just a maker of cheap components. An image they still have against them to some degree I think. But now they are at the cutting edge, making bleeding edge SOC’s.

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      it’s very impressive how far Mediatek has come, from being just a maker of cheap components. An image they still have against them to some degree I think. But now they are at the cutting edge, making bleeding edge SOC’s.

      Bleeding edge is cutting edge gone wrong.

      Is Mediatek’s phone WiFi as shit as their notebook WiFi (google for “mediatek wifi disconnecting” in case you’re wondering)? I wouldn’t want a phone with a SoC by a company that’s incompetent in keeping WiFi up, no matter how fast the CPU is.

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        Probably some of the best, since it is the official Arm GPU Immortalis-G720 with official Arm GPU drivers. AFAIK Mediatek has used that for a long time now, never heard about any problems with them on Android.

        Immortalis is the highest end GPU from Arm, and Immortalis-G720 is the newest iteration.

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    Hope to see them in tablets and laptops soon, I won’t ever understand who really needs ultra fast dumb phones.