I don’t support them at all but I seriously believe that by calling them things they are not, you open up the term for more moderate but right leaning people. “If everyone is a Nazi, Naziism must not be so bad.”
I personally don’t even care about rhetoric pushback, it just makes american political discourse impossible to read or interact with. I don’t know how americans deal with this on a daily basis without just giving up and noping out of politics.
When people talk about Nazis in my country’s political scene, they usually mean actual Nazis, skinheads covered in swastikas touting about and committing acts of violence on minorities, genuinely the worst kind of people you can possibly imagine. The same goes for fascists, probably because we got rid of fascism not that long ago. When americans (on the internet, at least) talk about Nazis or fascists, it’s a coin toss whether the person they’re talking about shares actual Nazi ideals, or is just someone very slightly right of center who they disagree with on some very specific issue. It just makes it impossible to interact with any american political discourse. Which would be fine if it was contained in specific communities, but it eventually spreads out to any community which has a large american user base.
In the Fediverse, my experience has been that any person or idea that is right-of-center on the American political spectrum is speedily labeled a Nazi and harassed into silence.
If your definition of moderate is anything right of anarchism, I’m sorry to break it to you but you don’t understand the definition of the word. Conservatives are not Nazis.
Then maybe discuss the ideas & groups to get them to either explain themselves or expose themselves… instead of calling them “national socialists” when that’s not what they are.
Otherwise why stop at “nazis”? Might as well straight up call them murderers or rapists.
Yeah, I don’t know what’s wrong with “fucking nazi dimwits”
I don’t support them at all but I seriously believe that by calling them things they are not, you open up the term for more moderate but right leaning people. “If everyone is a Nazi, Naziism must not be so bad.”
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I personally don’t even care about rhetoric pushback, it just makes american political discourse impossible to read or interact with. I don’t know how americans deal with this on a daily basis without just giving up and noping out of politics.
When people talk about Nazis in my country’s political scene, they usually mean actual Nazis, skinheads covered in swastikas touting about and committing acts of violence on minorities, genuinely the worst kind of people you can possibly imagine. The same goes for fascists, probably because we got rid of fascism not that long ago. When americans (on the internet, at least) talk about Nazis or fascists, it’s a coin toss whether the person they’re talking about shares actual Nazi ideals, or is just someone very slightly right of center who they disagree with on some very specific issue. It just makes it impossible to interact with any american political discourse. Which would be fine if it was contained in specific communities, but it eventually spreads out to any community which has a large american user base.
In the Fediverse, my experience has been that any person or idea that is right-of-center on the American political spectrum is speedily labeled a Nazi and harassed into silence.
Good, since they associate with and support white nationalists.
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I don’t know how you’d make that leap. Nazism is bad. Hence the people I called nazis are bad.
There’s no such thing. lol.
If your definition of moderate is anything right of anarchism, I’m sorry to break it to you but you don’t understand the definition of the word. Conservatives are not Nazis.
Many of them still act as apologists for some pretty despicable ideas & groups nonetheless.
That can be true and then still not be Nazis. Additionally, you pushing them that way doesn’t help the issue at all.
Then maybe discuss the ideas & groups to get them to either explain themselves or expose themselves… instead of calling them “national socialists” when that’s not what they are.
Otherwise why stop at “nazis”? Might as well straight up call them murderers or rapists.
A moderate who voted to put a Nazi in power is no better than the Nazi who voted to put a Nazi in power.
What should I call you then when you are encouraging them with your language?
I think that anybody even considering that thought is probably already beyond help.
At least that wouldn’t carry the pretext of objectivity.
“People who missed out on the slave trade”