Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren’t already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn’t what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel’s destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn’t coming because I’m sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff

The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia’s youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don’t want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it’s just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists’ side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR’s former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR’s forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster’s telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a ‘propaganda tax’, if you don’t believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week’s discussion post.


  • WhyEssEff [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Getting really fucking tired of the shit I’m putting up with regarding a high school friend badeline-jokerfied

    Give me talking points because in an hour or so I’m going to be screaming at him for his utter detached callousness towards the hospital bombing and I want to sound coherent doing it badeline-disgust

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]@hexbear.netOPM
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      I’m usually the last person to think that telling somebody you know personally to kill themselves is an acceptable thing to say as I’ve had some friends/family go out that way, but holy shit, I would be spamming KYS at them until they blocked me

    • the_kid@hexbear.net
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      tell them to kill themselves

      alternatively - the argument they’re making is that Gaza should be given more land to stage military attacks from. it’s a tiny place, there’s literally nowhere to store materiel/launch attacks from that aren’t near civilians.

    • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      I agree, they should have more land so they have the luxury of military bases being away from civilian centers. Give them Israel so they can spread out. Gaza is the size of a medium-large city, they don’t have a choice.

      Side note, they must be a really good friend in some other way because that is some heinous fucking justification for a thousand dead

    • JamesConeZone [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Talking points:

      • Why is Israel not morally responsible? Since Gaza is one of the densest urban areas in the world, the moral thing to do would be to confront Hamas on the ground or face to face. Dismissing admitted “genocide” by handwaving is repugnant.
      • Israel funded Hamas, pushed them into power, and then rejected calls to meet with them. They are morally responsible for the deaths in the region if your friend wants to blame Hamas for everything.
      • Would the Native Americans be justified in attacking the colonists? How is this different?
    • sisatici [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      No one is independent. No media is gonna publish something against interest of their owner. Every media is propaganda and if you disagree with all the evidence in front of you, that is because you are more brainwashed than what you imagine north Korean people are

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      You can literally see the footage of war crimes being committed in real time. We had pictures of white phosphorus use (confirmed btw) within 30 minutes of it’s use. You don’t have to wait. That being said, it is not independent journalists that disagree with what we are saying, every independent journalist that isn’t a think-tank freak is reporting on the blatant Israeli war crimes. Unless they are literally denying every independent report (and even statements put out by the UN itself).

      And that is regardless of the fact that Israel itself is the main funder of Hamas, you cannot be surprised when the fucking leopard you own rips at your face.

      Literally just send them videos of the protestors, literal children, getting shot back in 2018. Were all of them Hamas as well? Either that or they just have to admit that they are genocidal and tell them to go kill themselves.

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      I started typing a long debatebro paragraph about how Israel is not forced to bomb hospitals because its ego is wounded but a) I suck at convincing people and b) the suggestion of just showing footage is better.

      Maybe with captions? “Why should I care if these are ‘good victims’ like in the West Bank?” " Is this not state terrorism (A.K.A terrorism?)" “The vast majority of Hamas’s arsenal is underground, who is this really hurting?”. IDK, something snappy to shake them out of the debatebro mentality.