The height of El Clásico, Ronaldo v Messi and arguably the two most dominant teams of the last decade or so. However which team was more successful during this time period.
I think I lean towards Madrid barely
I’ve always said that a domestic league title will always be worth more than the Champions League
Playing 35 plus games against everyone home and away will always be a bigger achievement than 13 games with luck of the draw
Tbh if your Barcelona or Madrid then the majority of the games you play in the league are vs far inferior opposition. While there is a luck of the draw in the UCL there is also far better opposition.
Moreover in the league you can lose a few games or draw a few games and still end up winning the league whereas in the UCL if your team has one bad game you can potentially be out. I think both league and UCL have their difficulties
Barcelona definitely
Barca…
Barca. It’s not even a contest.
Barcelona
Champions League: 08-09, 10-11, 14-15 (3x)
La Liga: 08-09, 09-10, 10-11, 12-13, 14-15, 15-16, 17-18, 18-19 (8x)
Real Madrid
Champions League: 13-14, 15-16, 16-17, 17-18 (4x)
La Liga: 11-12, 16-17 (2x)Barcelona had national dominance during this period, while Real Madrid won one more CL. I would say it was Barcelona because they had a more entertaining and stable playstyle. In many cases, Real Madrid were well below Barcelona in some seasons, but they masked this instability with a CL title during their second part of the season. Don’t get me wrong, but I wouldn’t trade 6 national titles for one single more CL
I found Real Madrid more entertaining with a fast football.
Fair enough. Would you say the same when talking about MSN? They somehow abolished some of their principles, going towards a more direct playstyle in MSN period, during 14-17.
Yeah they were much more direct and fun to watch in that period. That super team of Guardiola was boring to me.
Barca was definitely not entertaining football
It’s not 1 more cl. It’s 3 in a row. In modern times everyone thought it’s impossible to win 2 in a row. They did it 3 times.
Thanks for this. Really helps to see a breakdown of titles during the period in question!
That seems like an oversimplification though.
It’s not just that they won 1 more UCL, they won it 3 times in a row. That’s absolutely a far more impressive feat than winning the series a few extra times.
The mental fortitude required to win it the 3rd time alone is astonishing. UCL is the WC of club football. Imagine how easy it would be to choke that last final. Christ, I’m getting nervous just thinking about taking to the pitch under those conditions.
3x UCL you just have to worry about not losing the yearly tournament. it’s not that hard on a player whatsoever
winning trebles and sextuples in a single season is incredibly hard. You have to perform in every competition you see in There’s a reason only pep guardiola has won multiple in his career.
and Madrid a supposed “powerhouse” has never registered a single sextuple or treble win in 125 years of existence.
Multiple teams won trebles, even sextuples. Nobody repeated an UCL (since all the best teams play it), let alone get 3 in a row.
it’s not that hard for a player to focus on a knockout tournament for 3 consecutive years.
You know how hard it is to be focused in EVERY competition and still maintain fitness and health?
If a treble was so easy why hasn’t the best team in europe ever won one? Madrid is somehow the best, but they’ve never won? That’s kind of sad
That’s why man city is simply the best team now. Outclassed la liga by a mile
Man city won a treble in less than 10 years
something fans of clubs who have been alive for 125 years wish they had!
Winning against the best teams in the world > Winning against your own B-tier bench in LaLiga… Yeah, treb is hard. Winning La Liga vs UCL is not.
If the series was decided on knockouts, we could have reduced Barcas wins there in half.
Again, Negreira decides. Barca will most likely lose alot their trophies of note, especially the Treble, once that’s done.
We can pretend like this is a fair match, but it’s not.
RM did a UCL 3peat. Which is unheard of. Barca wins a few extra NT through ref bribery and breaking their bank account. How is this still a comparison?
A FEW extra times? We are talking about EIGHT against two national titles during really tough matchups that were waaay beyond football by itself. And I am not even going to include Copa del Rey here.
Don’t get me wrong, but Real Madrid was not as consistent as Barcelona in this period. Real is the biggest club in football history and this is enough for them to be considered favorites in the Champions League, but if you look at their performances and the best teams in those times, they were not supposed to be the ones with most odds to win it because they lacked top tier consistency during the year.
Number of times in which they’ve won both La Liga and Champions League in the same season:
Barcelona: 3 out of 3 (08-09, 10-11, 14-15)
Real Madrid: 1 out of 4 (16-17)
Barca undoubtedly played some amazing football. However, claiming that winning La Liga is the same as winning UCL just doesn’t sit right with me. It can’t even be compared.
AM, RM and Barca were the only contenders at that point. RM rested their players, especially with injuries in mind, during LL matches, and focused on UCL.
I’m torn between who was the best during this period, and personally, the result of the Negreira case, will be the deciding factor for me.
yeah RM rested players and barca didn’t, which is a contributing factor to barca not performing as well in the CL. its why madrid has 0 trebles
Talking about Europe specifically, it’s been Real Madrid. They’ve been much more dominant than Barça. But if we’re talking about overall display, it’s Barça. They outplayed Real Madrid in Laliga plus domestic competitions. They’ve been the better magnet to attract great players. Most of the footballing world agrees that Barça 2011 is the greatest team of all time. They’ve won the most individual awards. Barça’s La Masia has proven itself to be a lot better than La Fabrica.
Real Madrid will always be better as an overall team historically. But 2009-19 was Barça’s decade.
They’ve been the better magnet to attract great players.
Is that why they are now broke? Or was it because they bought the refa
Barca slightly edged them out for that period, but Madrid are still the biggest and most successful club in the history of football.
I say slightly because in the grand view of things domestic titles are just not as important as UCL wins. Think about AC Milan and Juventus. Globally, Milan are way more famous because they did well in Europe even though Juve are way ahead of them domestically.
Barca needs the referees even though they had “the best team ever”. So…
Madrid by far
Its close but its Real Madrid. Winning CL even a single time is a dream from many players and clubs. Winning it 3 times in a row and 4 times in 5 years is humongous. Imagine the mental fortitude and consistency at the highest level required to accomplish this feat. This has to be the biggest sporting achievement ever by any club/group of players (although ofc RM itself also won it 5 times in a row during the 50s).
While the three-peat is one of the greatest achievements in football history, I’ll have to remind you that Real only could do it because we had already lost the league in ‘16 and ‘18.
Our squad (I am a Real fan) was filled with big game players, but over the course of a season, we couldn’t hold up against Barca. We never managed a treble win, which Barca did twice.
Still, winning 3 UCLs in a row is insane. Many clubs go all in on the UCL instead of the league every year, and still don’t win. We did that 2 years in 3, and dominated in 2017. However, we wouldn’t have done it had Barca not been the overall better team during our three-peat stint, ironically.
Good point . But don’t forget that barca won the treble twice in the period OP mentioned which is a dream for madridistas
Considering the help of the referees? The answer is crystal clear…
Madrid and it’s not close.
Barca, how is this even a question?
Barcelona. Sure, they have one less UCL than Real Madrid in that period. But they dominated their domestic league much more that Real Madrid did in those 10 years. 7 La Liga titles, 6 Copa del Rey and 6 Supercopas compared to Real Madrid’s 2 La Ligas, 2 Copa del Rey and 2 Supercopas. Because of this domestic dominance the title count is 31 for Barcelona and 17 for Real Madrid in that period.
I’d say Real Madrid. 4 Champions League, 3 of which were consecutive is an absolutely insane achievement. How do you win 4 in 5 years