So, before I ‘saw the light’ and realized all religions were based on an ambiguous, contradictory, flat out made-up-by-mankind fairy tales, I spent years in different sects of christianity. Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, Assemblies of God, Non-dom Evangelical, Messianic Jews (and ain’t that an oxymoron!) These “teachings” were widely accepted in Pentecostal, AOG, and Evangelical churches. I scored roughly 33% sanguine, melancholic, and phlegmatic, lol. Nobody knew what to do with me!
As odd and crazy and backwards this seems to those of us who have beaten our way out of the wet-paper-bag-that-is-Christianity (or have never been in the wet paper bag, you lucky ducks), this makes total and complete sense to those who are still in the echo chamber of Christianity.
Total and complete sense, PERFECT sense.
They believe in this shit, like really believe in it.
She and her husband have been lied to and fooled, and I wouldn’t give a damn, except that he is in a position of leadership in this country…and he’s a true believer, one who will change our country into a theocracy if given the chance.
We’d better all hope Biden and Kamala survive the next few years, because this man taking on the presidency would set us back centuries. He’d take us to Gilead if he could.
And this, this right here, is why I’m an antitheist, why beliefs fucking matter. It’s all fine and “your own business” until you wind up with people who vote on laws who think magic, otherworldly messages from a deity, and pseudoscience exist in reality.
Exactly. The problem is that it can never just stop there. If we could all just “live and let live,” then of course everyone should have the right to worship how, when, and where they want to. But humans are all judgemental, narcissistic dicks who insist on forcing beliefs onto everyone and everything because they’re right and everyone else is wrong.
In the US, it’s never just a matter of “religious freedom.” It’s a matter of people having bodily autonomy, of freedom from persecution for loving who you love, of freedom from diseases that proliferate due to the rejection of modern medicine. There are even homeless shelters/soup kitchens that won’t allow people to eat or stay the night until they’ve sat through an entire church service. And that’s considered pretty normal in terms of charities that target homelessness and addiction.
It may be a cliche way to put it, but it really does act like a societal cancer.
There’s zero chance he lasts more than a month. If he does what the hardliners want and shuts down the government, the purple district Republicans or possibly even the majority of the party will make a deal with Democrats and remove him as speaker. If he allows a moderate budget to make it to Biden, the hardliners will McCarthy him. The hardliners are so unreasonable that they’ll probably get less of the policies they want than if they kept their months shut and voted with the party. However, they don’t give a shit about policy. Thanks to Trump’s support, they can threaten to sink Republicans willing to compromise in the primary, theoretically pressuring everyone to be totally loyal to Trump, even if his ideas hurt their popularity.
Oh damn, you were deeper than I ever got lmao. Used to be nondenominational but attended a Baptist church (though ironically never got around to getting baptized). I even taught children’s ministry via AWANAs.
What’s the point of these personality tests though? I feel like anyone from the church is used to attend would even find these on the extreme side lol
I taught Sunday school and Missionettes, my husband taught Sunday school and Royal Rangers; we both taught puppet ministry. (All over the tri state area) And I am so freaking ashamed.
The purpose of the personality tests was to determine how you ‘received’ a teaching and how you would teach others. At least as far as I remember.
Also, fuck the RR. Glad you guys got out. I feel you though, I think about all the kids I used to help indoctrinate all the time. Probably why I’m so vocal about atheism and really critical of hypocrisy in religion now. End of the day you do you, but if you claim to be religious I am 100% going to call you out if I catch you doing something you claim to be against
No offense, and I’m not the person you asked, but what helpful perspective could those truly offer? They’re still based on magical thinking and unfalsifiable claims, just like Christianity.
The garden is beautiful without needing to believe there’s fairies at the bottom of it.
I mainly project myself in that statement, I like to know how people come up with their perspectives, in this case religions. Religions are all fairytales, easter fairytales can provide some new stories? In the west, its all Christianity and some interests with Norse paganism.
So, before I ‘saw the light’ and realized all religions were based on an ambiguous, contradictory, flat out made-up-by-mankind fairy tales, I spent years in different sects of christianity. Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, Assemblies of God, Non-dom Evangelical, Messianic Jews (and ain’t that an oxymoron!) These “teachings” were widely accepted in Pentecostal, AOG, and Evangelical churches. I scored roughly 33% sanguine, melancholic, and phlegmatic, lol. Nobody knew what to do with me!
As odd and crazy and backwards this seems to those of us who have beaten our way out of the wet-paper-bag-that-is-Christianity (or have never been in the wet paper bag, you lucky ducks), this makes total and complete sense to those who are still in the echo chamber of Christianity.
Total and complete sense, PERFECT sense.
They believe in this shit, like really believe in it.
She and her husband have been lied to and fooled, and I wouldn’t give a damn, except that he is in a position of leadership in this country…and he’s a true believer, one who will change our country into a theocracy if given the chance.
We’d better all hope Biden and Kamala survive the next few years, because this man taking on the presidency would set us back centuries. He’d take us to Gilead if he could.
And this, this right here, is why I’m an antitheist, why beliefs fucking matter. It’s all fine and “your own business” until you wind up with people who vote on laws who think magic, otherworldly messages from a deity, and pseudoscience exist in reality.
Also, hello fellow ex-fundie!
Exactly. The problem is that it can never just stop there. If we could all just “live and let live,” then of course everyone should have the right to worship how, when, and where they want to. But humans are all judgemental, narcissistic dicks who insist on forcing beliefs onto everyone and everything because they’re right and everyone else is wrong.
In the US, it’s never just a matter of “religious freedom.” It’s a matter of people having bodily autonomy, of freedom from persecution for loving who you love, of freedom from diseases that proliferate due to the rejection of modern medicine. There are even homeless shelters/soup kitchens that won’t allow people to eat or stay the night until they’ve sat through an entire church service. And that’s considered pretty normal in terms of charities that target homelessness and addiction.
It may be a cliche way to put it, but it really does act like a societal cancer.
There’s zero chance he lasts more than a month. If he does what the hardliners want and shuts down the government, the purple district Republicans or possibly even the majority of the party will make a deal with Democrats and remove him as speaker. If he allows a moderate budget to make it to Biden, the hardliners will McCarthy him. The hardliners are so unreasonable that they’ll probably get less of the policies they want than if they kept their months shut and voted with the party. However, they don’t give a shit about policy. Thanks to Trump’s support, they can threaten to sink Republicans willing to compromise in the primary, theoretically pressuring everyone to be totally loyal to Trump, even if his ideas hurt their popularity.
Oh damn, you were deeper than I ever got lmao. Used to be nondenominational but attended a Baptist church (though ironically never got around to getting baptized). I even taught children’s ministry via AWANAs.
What’s the point of these personality tests though? I feel like anyone from the church is used to attend would even find these on the extreme side lol
I taught Sunday school and Missionettes, my husband taught Sunday school and Royal Rangers; we both taught puppet ministry. (All over the tri state area) And I am so freaking ashamed.
The purpose of the personality tests was to determine how you ‘received’ a teaching and how you would teach others. At least as far as I remember.
Interesting. Reeks of scientology ironically lol
Also, fuck the RR. Glad you guys got out. I feel you though, I think about all the kids I used to help indoctrinate all the time. Probably why I’m so vocal about atheism and really critical of hypocrisy in religion now. End of the day you do you, but if you claim to be religious I am 100% going to call you out if I catch you doing something you claim to be against
Atheist here, but have you look into non-Abrahamic religions? Daoism? Buddhism? It might provide a new perspective.
No offense, and I’m not the person you asked, but what helpful perspective could those truly offer? They’re still based on magical thinking and unfalsifiable claims, just like Christianity.
The garden is beautiful without needing to believe there’s fairies at the bottom of it.
You’ve so perfectly summed up my beliefs. The garden is beautiful without needing to believe there’s fairies at the bottom of it.
Pure beauty, my friend.
Douglas Adams was brilliant.
I mainly project myself in that statement, I like to know how people come up with their perspectives, in this case religions. Religions are all fairytales, easter fairytales can provide some new stories? In the west, its all Christianity and some interests with Norse paganism.
Please disregard my ravings at your leisure.